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Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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post #81

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I wasn't sure if my comment was in the spirit of HN given it's overly personal and is now totally irrelevant to the lithub post. But since you asked -- before the PD's conclusion I told myself I would just accept whatever they report. But doing that has now left me with the lifelong burden of falsely accusing two people of murder. The people were desperately poor in-laws. He was becoming cash poor but was still home…

If he knew they were going to kill him why did he let them visit?

A surprise visit it might have been..

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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post #84

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“Come on…” said every person uncomfortable with the brutal history of race relations and living in denial about its long term effects.

Or maybe, and this might sound outlandish, we are tired of the tendrils of this insidious beast infecting every single thing. Walking. Walking? Yes, walking. "Come on" is right.

Tendrils of an insidious beast? A bit dramatic?

What are you including in said “insidious beast?” Any mention of a racial past is representative on an evil monster seeking to pervade all culture?

I think you’ve been watching too much hentai.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Come on…” said every person uncomfortable with the brutal history of race relations and living in denial about its long term effects.

I'm not uncomfortable with it, just past it. My family's always been poor, and didn't oppress anyone. But, I do recognize that some did. I don't see it today. In fact, in my home city, I'd argue there's more areas where a black could walk freely than a white. But that's just city life and demographics in a shitty US city. In the world, walking is not a racebound privilege.

You’re empirically wrong. Leisurely walking is a privilege of affluence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6095595/

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not uncomfortable with it, just past it. My family's always been poor, and didn't oppress anyone. But, I do recognize that some did. I don't see it today. In fact, in my home city, I'd argue there's more areas where a black could walk freely than a white. But that's just city life and demographics in a shitty US city. In the world, walking is not a racebound privilege.

You’re empirically wrong. Leisurely walking is a privilege of affluence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6095595/

Your empirical doesn't match my own.

I'm not calling your link untrue, just incomplete.

If you want to visit my hometown and give it a test, I'm more than happy to guide you.

But I also realize my experiences may have been rather different than those in other cities. It doesn't make either of us wrong.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not uncomfortable with it, just past it. My family's always been poor, and didn't oppress anyone. But, I do recognize that some did. I don't see it today. In fact, in my home city, I'd argue there's more areas where a black could walk freely than a white. But that's just city life and demographics in a shitty US city. In the world, walking is not a racebound privilege.

You’re empirically wrong. Leisurely walking is a privilege of affluence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6095595/

Did you post the correct study? This paper seems more about mental state than any race/gender type research. e.g.

"In particular, this study aimed to explore how the participants’ pre-existing levels of non-clinical depression, anxiety, persecutory feelings and personal resilience influence the in situ judgments they make about the contrasting urban environments."

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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post #46

"Historically, however, walking has been the privilege of white men." Come on... Anyway, Nietzsche used to walk before writing like Darwin Long time ago I read that walking or taking a shower make your thinking more effective because it somehow enables automation mode and allow to be more focused

This statement is a bit broad and thus debatable in overall accuracy, but it is based on something real. It is probably overly centered on the western and white-centric world, since being white or not doesn't even come into question in many other parts of the world. But in the US/Europe... Women have been, for valid reasons and patriarchal overprotectiveness, been trained to feel vulnerable and exposed when walking o…

>This statement is a bit broad and thus debatable in overall accuracy

the statement is very broad and as such laughable. Basically it implies history is something that has existed in the last few hundred years in the Americas.

It's ridiculous enough it could easily fit in a satirical skit.

>"justifiably walking thoughts free with impunity" is indeed the privilege of white men in the lands of white men

- maybe lose the 'thoughts' there

yes, I can agree that was what was meant and it is correct, it was just phrased so badly that it should prompt guffaws of laughter instead of nods of agreement.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This statement is a bit broad and thus debatable in overall accuracy, but it is based on something real. It is probably overly centered on the western and white-centric world, since being white or not doesn't even come into question in many other parts of the world. But in the US/Europe... Women have been, for valid reasons and patriarchal overprotectiveness, been trained to feel vulnerable and exposed when walking o…

>This statement is a bit broad and thus debatable in overall accuracy the statement is very broad and as such laughable. Basically it implies history is something that has existed in the last few hundred years in the Americas. It's ridiculous enough it could easily fit in a satirical skit. >"justifiably walking thoughts free with impunity" is indeed the privilege of white men in the lands of white men - maybe lose th…

You can choose to laugh at someone for misphrasing something, or you could just apply charity and move on…

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

#108
post #33

Can we, for a second, remember that walking-makes-thinking-easier is a classic ADHD/ASD symptom? And that both ADHD and ASD have been linked to creative, deep thinking? Charles Darwin, the #1 example in this article, has been long suspected to have had Asperger's (which we classify as ASD today)[1]; and had exhibited symptoms of ADHD (one makes the other more likely)[2]. That link is only a surprise to neurotypicals.…

My first job out of college was in an office with a cubicle space floor. After a few weeks, I'd often pace around in a small space outside the main entrance when I'm thinking about a problem at work. People would ask if I'm ok. After ~3 months, I couldn't do any work in that office, so I quit. I don't know if I have ADHD or not, but whenever I'm stuck at a coding problem or any sort of a creative problem (I do produc…

When I worked in an open floor layout, I used to set my working hours to 2PM-10PM, while most of my coworkers were on 9AM-5PM or so.

This gave me an overlap of 3 hours to exchange information with my colleagues, and 5 hours to actually work when the office emptied out.

If you are wondering whether you have ADHD or not, I made a website where symptoms are described from a first-person POV[1]. It's 200+ memes/comics I found on the Net, and a lot of text going in-depth about them.

If you relate to a lot of these, treatment can improve your life.

However, if you find that whatever makes your life easier - walking while thinking, fidgeting/doodling in meetings and phone calls, etc - just do it. It's your life. No need to play it on hard mode.

[1] https://romankogan.net/adhd

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

#109
post #6

I agree 100% with this article - I do my best thinking when walking. It is the combination of light exercise that gets the blood moving (to the brain!), but not too strenuous that our minds must devote mental energy to the act of phsyical exercise, the oxygen from the fresh air, the feeling of _wandering_ and letting our minds wander. Sometimes I struggle with deep thinking at my desk - its too quiet / stable. A litt…

We took in an older dog who had worked for 10 years at a hunting lodge. He’s incredibly well trained, doesn’t need a leash, doesn’t go wild or bark his head off under any provocation, and is happy going for long walks at a slow pace with random pauses. I’ve lost track number and quality of excellent solutions I have come up with on these walks, including three provisional patents filed and a major contract saved. He’…

heart warming

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

#110
post #79

Yet another great mind (also an infamous introvert) who used to take long walks to refresh his mind was Paul Dirac. From his 1963 interview [1] with Thomas Kuhn, he describes how a decisive Sunday walk made him see the analogy between commutators in quantum mechanics and Poisson brackets in classical mechanics: > "I used to take long walks on Sundays and get away from the work altogether, and at the end of those walk…

>also an infamous introvert

...and a person who likely had ASD[1][2][3][4] (aka Asperger's, being on the spectrum, etc).

As did Charles Darwin (see my other comment in this thread).

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539373/

[2] https://www.quora.com/Did-Paul-Dirac-have-Asperger-syndrome

[3]https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2009/jan/07/autism-...

[4]https://www.newstatesman.com/society/2010/11/dirac-autism-au...

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