Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine? • Hacker News Board

Re: Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?

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Post by Marsymars » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 3:12 AM UTC

lamontcg wrote: post #123

gunapologist99 wrote: post #41

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I am so sorry for your terrible sickness! It's probably impossible to say whether "the vaccine has kept this relatively mild", especially since you got it despite being vaccinated twice. At least earlier strains showed no or very mild symptoms in 80% of the infected, and yours doesn't sound very mild. Maybe you'd be dead if not for the vaccine? or perhaps the vaccine allowed your body to contain it to just your nose,…

> yours doesn't sound very mild. Yes his symptoms sound mild. There's a good chance that whatever you think of as severe cold/flu is all clinically mild (unless you've actually had complications and wound up in the hospital). Actual unvaccinated severe COVID-19 is an order of magnitude worse than what you can imagine as severe.

> Actual unvaccinated severe COVID-19 is an order of magnitude worse than what you can imagine as severe.

“Order of magnitude worse” of disease severity isn’t defined super clearly, but if I heard that description compared to the worst cold/flu I’ve had that didn’t hospitalize me, my feeling would be that the result would be fatal.

Re: Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?

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Post by pluc » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 12:45 PM UTC

maxerickson wrote: post #72

pluc wrote: post #53

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There's a legit conspiracy with this very narrative. We have a handful of companies who have just been showered in public funds in the hopes that they produce something to make themselves irrelevant. It's not hard to believe that they'll lobby for the boosters regardless of the data.

That's a really bad characterization though, the vaccine studies were designed with the participation of government scientists (for sure with Moderna, which was developed in partnership with NIH). The idea that the corporate scientists are all utterly corrupt and also so much better at science that they can undermine the effectiveness of the vaccines without ruining them completely is nonsensical.

The research is funded by the government and the profits are kept by the companies. You don't need to get on your high horse with "really bad characterization" or "nonsensical". We were told two vaccines would be enough, and now it seems like we're getting a third. That nonsense you mentioned is happening. Whether it's happening because we didn't have the data for the Delta variant at the time of research, I can believe, but you won't convince me that the CEOs of those companies aren't joyful finding strains that resist their vaccines.

Re: Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?

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Post by cactus2093 » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 10:47 PM UTC

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #141

cactus2093 wrote: post #138

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That is not remotely related to what you claimed, genius. Try again

Take personal attacks elsewhere. That's not the way it's done on HN.

The comment I initially replied to was spreading dangerous, scientifically untrue misinformation: "Vaccinations with current vaccines don't stop infections/spread at all". Snark can be a useful tool to call out BS. I spend a good bit of time here and can observe for myself how things are actually done, thanks (not just what the official rules state).