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Tesla keeps pulling ahead of everyone else. Never been more optimistic about its prospects
They keep saying they’re pulling ahead of everyone else. But as the owner of a Model 3, with a deposit in for a Cybertruck, all I’ve seen materialize in the last year are “cold weather improvements”. The hype is accelerating but the actual production offerings aren’t keeping pace.
Tesla keeps pulling ahead of everyone else. Never been more optimistic about its prospects
> 550km real-world driving range (565km using US-based EPA ratings and 584km using the European WLTP cycle which Tesla also shows on its website in Australia). Things are getting into interesting ranges though quite short of most ICEs still.
The thing is with EVs, you don't need a range the same as ICE. I'm not sure if you've ever owned an EV, but the vast majority of trips are done relatively locally and with a home charger, you're pretty much always "full" after you plug in overnight. The nicest thing is that I never have to worry about going to a gas station. For longer trips the range sort-of matters, but at least with Tesla, the Supercharger density…
Surely this depends on your use case. This is likely true if you use your car to commute, or you live in a rural area so you need to use a car to go shopping. But not everybody uses a car for those things, and you've just listed a bunch of use-cases where the range would be useful. This an option that those who do need it can opt into, which makes perfect sense to me.
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They keep saying they’re pulling ahead of everyone else. But as the owner of a Model 3, with a deposit in for a Cybertruck, all I’ve seen materialize in the last year are “cold weather improvements”. The hype is accelerating but the actual production offerings aren’t keeping pace.
Who are you comparing them to? That’s missing from your critique.
Tesla keeps pulling ahead of everyone else. Never been more optimistic about its prospects
They keep saying they’re pulling ahead of everyone else. But as the owner of a Model 3, with a deposit in for a Cybertruck, all I’ve seen materialize in the last year are “cold weather improvements”. The hype is accelerating but the actual production offerings aren’t keeping pace.
So, you missed the Model S Plaid release?
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The thing is with EVs, you don't need a range the same as ICE. I'm not sure if you've ever owned an EV, but the vast majority of trips are done relatively locally and with a home charger, you're pretty much always "full" after you plug in overnight. The nicest thing is that I never have to worry about going to a gas station. For longer trips the range sort-of matters, but at least with Tesla, the Supercharger density…
>the vast majority of trips are done relatively locally and with a home charger Surely this depends on your use case. This is likely true if you use your car to commute, or you live in a rural area so you need to use a car to go shopping. But not everybody uses a car for those things, and you've just listed a bunch of use-cases where the range would be useful. This an option that those who do need it can opt into, wh…
If you’re hauling horse trailers or routinely commuting 150+ miles in a day, sure, EVs don’t meet your needs yet. But for most, they already do. There are several taxi services that have Model Ys in their fleet, so even high utilization use cases are served by existing EVs and related infrastructure.
> 550km real-world driving range (565km using US-based EPA ratings and 584km using the European WLTP cycle which Tesla also shows on its website in Australia). Things are getting into interesting ranges though quite short of most ICEs still.
The thing is with EVs, you don't need a range the same as ICE. I'm not sure if you've ever owned an EV, but the vast majority of trips are done relatively locally and with a home charger, you're pretty much always "full" after you plug in overnight. The nicest thing is that I never have to worry about going to a gas station. For longer trips the range sort-of matters, but at least with Tesla, the Supercharger density…
It's alright when you can guarentee your stop is 15-20 minutes. But it will probably look a lot different when there are 2x, 3x, 10x more EVs on the road. Imagine being in line when everyone has to charge for 15 minutes?
https://thedriven.io/2021/06/30/tesla-owners-line-up-at-supe...
It will be interesting if charging stations can keep pace with EV adoption.
The current Model Y already gets 594km of range: https://www.tesla.cn/modely This would only be a 8% increase.
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They keep saying they’re pulling ahead of everyone else. But as the owner of a Model 3, with a deposit in for a Cybertruck, all I’ve seen materialize in the last year are “cold weather improvements”. The hype is accelerating but the actual production offerings aren’t keeping pace.
Who are you comparing them to? That’s missing from your critique.
All the software updates have been minor tweaks. The new car models keep getting pushed back. Meanwhile the hype continues to accelerate.
Given that their delivered progress is ~0, and the hype clearly >0, they’re not pulling ahead relative to anybody.