AI is just not advanced enough to jail people, by a very large margin. And yet we will see it happen.
A man spent a year in jail on murder charge that hinged on disputed AI evidence
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, drug dogs are still a thing even though we know they tend to respond to owners desires regardless of if there’s drugs present.
Wow i have never heard of that. Curious to see a link/article on the issue, if you can provide.
I think this part is pretty key, and has always been a big open question in my mind:
"The court further recognized a potential problem in assessing reliability related to handler cuing, as even well-trained dogs could respond to subconscious cues from their handlers. For this reason, the court determined that a critical factor in determining reliability is the record of false positive alerts made by the dog."
The subconscious cues, or even deliberate cues that only the handler and dog know, could allow an officer with ill intentions to make some kind of signal only known to him and the dog, which causes the dog to make an "alert", giving the cop probable cause.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, drug dogs are still a thing even though we know they tend to respond to owners desires regardless of if there’s drugs present.
Wow i have never heard of that. Curious to see a link/article on the issue, if you can provide.
Backs up the GP claim but I can’t find any evidence of this being replicated in another independent experiment. It’s at least a little bit strange that no one tried to replicate these rather concerning findings in the past 10 years since publication.
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#24Do the microphones record conversations too? Can the government spy on its own citizens? I guess some secret court ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intell... ) allowed it?
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#25Well that's still a failure on both the software programmed by humans causing a false positive and then doubled down by a wrong human review, based on a false alert. All involved stakeholders have failed.
How is this a failure by software? The software categorized the sound as a fire work.
The outcome - a guy being charged with a crime using bogus evidence is the story. The software may have been right, but the people who operate the software didn't trust it. Regardless, the story is trying to point out we might not be ready to put our faith in AI for criminal prosecutions at this time.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, drug dogs are still a thing even though we know they tend to respond to owners desires regardless of if there’s drugs present.
Wow i have never heard of that. Curious to see a link/article on the issue, if you can provide.
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#27Re: A man spent a year in jail on murder charge that hinged on disputed AI evidence
#28Coming next year: "A man spent a year in jail on child pornography charge that hinged on disputed Apple CSAM evidence".
Prosecution over thumbnails, file hash matches with tenuous connections to individuals, Crime-Tech has given a new position for law enforcement to craft fanciful narratives to support prosecutions of just about anyone. I'm not specifically citing or inferring there have been *targeted* instances of this, but it happens very often towards US citizens already.
Stingrays, Cellebrite, Forensic "science", ShotSpotter, it's absolute chaos and anyone can be a victim here.
My goal here is not anything about Apple and its CSAM strategy, but to make it very clear that the imagined scenario happens now and happens frequently.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, drug dogs are still a thing even though we know they tend to respond to owners desires regardless of if there’s drugs present.
Wow i have never heard of that. Curious to see a link/article on the issue, if you can provide.
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#30“It's said that in May last year, Williams was driving through Chicago one night hoping to buy some cigarettes.” Ah yes, I remember hearing that a lot growing up. Editors, do your job!
What do you mean?
It's like saying I was driving through the United States to go to my local corner store.
I wouldn't have thought about the poor writing if OP didn't mention it, but it is still a bit pedantic in my opinion.