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Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by ethanwillis »

veltas wrote: post #137
jazzyjackson wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out humans are actually really great at controlling ridiculously fast aircraft, the drone races are controlled by a person looking through a camera pointed forward on the drone. You can think of it like speedrunning an N64 game, finding the timing that lets you act instead of react. But +1 humanity’s fucked, don’t Google Slaughterbots but maybe Google how to build an EMP, it’s easier than you think.

>maybe Google how to build an EMP Sounds like a good way to get on a list.

Why is Google allowing lists to be built?

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by jahnu »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #122
nostrademons wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saw some guys racing drones like the first video in a local park. Every bit as fast and maneuverable, but they had them going through 6 ft gates on a course roughly the size of a football field. I assume they're not really human-controlled because I could barely track where the drone was, let alone give it precise controls for how to pass through the gate. Went home and told my wife "If we ever get into a war, humani…

Usually they’re human controlled with an FPV camera setup. Lots of stuff on YouTube to check out related to it if you’re curious. The camera and live video feed to goggles greatly increases what you can do with the drone

And they use analogue video signals to avoid encoding/decoding latency

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by jiggawatts »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #126
nostrademons wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saw some guys racing drones like the first video in a local park. Every bit as fast and maneuverable, but they had them going through 6 ft gates on a course roughly the size of a football field. I assume they're not really human-controlled because I could barely track where the drone was, let alone give it precise controls for how to pass through the gate. Went home and told my wife "If we ever get into a war, humani…

Turns out humans are actually really great at controlling ridiculously fast aircraft, the drone races are controlled by a person looking through a camera pointed forward on the drone. You can think of it like speedrunning an N64 game, finding the timing that lets you act instead of react. But +1 humanity’s fucked, don’t Google Slaughterbots but maybe Google how to build an EMP, it’s easier than you think.

Conversely, shielding electronics against EMPs is surprisingly easy. Just wrapping things in aluminium foil goes a long way.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by skinkestek »

prawn wrote: post #138
Implicated wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't underestimate the scale of wealth, $10k for a few moments of joy/adrenaline is far from unheard of for those with the means. If you have others, or can reproduce that piece of equipment with mere currency and you're sitting on a mountain of it.. why not?

I don't underestimate it, but if I wanted to play around with an expensive drone I could afford to lose, it would be during the day when I could see what I was doing or in a more interesting place. Dangerously flying a large/experimental drone near an air force base goes from "lose my $10k drone" to incurring the wrath of serious entities. Take down a chopper and if it's traced back to you, you're in some sort of tro…

> Dangerously flying a large/experimental drone near an air force base goes from "lose my $10k drone" to incurring the wrath of serious entities.

Messing with the armed forces or police seemed to be part of growing up as a teenage boy for some of my friends. (I was tempted to write rite of passage here but that would imply that it happened once for each.)

Of course they like me wasn't too well of so it was all about illegal fireworks, sneaking, swimming or canoeing into military or naval bases etc.

No doubt in my mind they could have tried something similar to this if they were young today and had the tech skills and money for it.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by al3xandre »

jonplackett wrote: post #139
jazzyjackson wrote: post #87

> I would have to imagine it was larger than a quadcopter, and I guarantee you it was nothing like a quadcopter from how long it was up - it has to be satellite-driven because there’s no line-of-sight, there’s no cell phone coverage that could have dealt with that, so it has to be satellite-driven, which is pretty freakin’ sophisticated.” So, setting aside this claim that there’s no line of sight, my bet is these guy…

Most impressed by the camera tracking. Is that automated or is someone that good at pointing a camera? (First link I mean)

I think the video was accelerated (look at cars in the background or wind in trees/on grass or the occasional bird/insect).

Which means the drone may not have been as fast/manœuvrerabke as it looks.

It would explain the crazy Camera tracking skills.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by zardo »

colinmhayes wrote: post #68
LinuxBender wrote: post #7

Somewhat off topic, what I find curious is that gangs have not yet started really making use of drones. I've heard of them being used to drop drugs and phones into prisons, but not much else. Some of the higher end hobby drones can fly just as high as general aviation aircraft and really fast and carry a lot of weight. Or perhaps I have missed the stories?

I'm surprised no one has been assassinated by a drone. Train a computer vision model for the target, attach a gun, and let it fly around until the person is found.

The US has been using drones for assassination for something like 18 years now.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by snovv_crash »

jahnu wrote: post #142
NegativeLatency wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually they’re human controlled with an FPV camera setup. Lots of stuff on YouTube to check out related to it if you’re curious. The camera and live video feed to goggles greatly increases what you can do with the drone

And they use analogue video signals to avoid encoding/decoding latency

Not always, there are starting to be some good digital systems. Analogue is just cheaper and lighter.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by rualca »

cryptonector wrote: post #112
jazzyjackson wrote: post #87

> I would have to imagine it was larger than a quadcopter, and I guarantee you it was nothing like a quadcopter from how long it was up - it has to be satellite-driven because there’s no line-of-sight, there’s no cell phone coverage that could have dealt with that, so it has to be satellite-driven, which is pretty freakin’ sophisticated.” So, setting aside this claim that there’s no line of sight, my bet is these guy…

Why even use drug mules if you can just drone everything over the border?

> Why even use drug mules if you can just drone everything over the border?

A few weeks ago there was a news article on how drug cartels were using cheap Chinese VTOL drones to smuggle drugs across the Mediterranean between Morocco and Spain.

https://english.elpais.com/spain/2021-07-15/spanish-police-s...

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by valtism »

jiggawatts wrote: post #143
jazzyjackson wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out humans are actually really great at controlling ridiculously fast aircraft, the drone races are controlled by a person looking through a camera pointed forward on the drone. You can think of it like speedrunning an N64 game, finding the timing that lets you act instead of react. But +1 humanity’s fucked, don’t Google Slaughterbots but maybe Google how to build an EMP, it’s easier than you think.

Conversely, shielding electronics against EMPs is surprisingly easy. Just wrapping things in aluminium foil goes a long way.

Doesn't this also mean that they would not be able to receive comms?

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by unnouinceput »

Quote: "... it has to be satellite-driven because there’s no line-of-sight, there’s no cell phone coverage that could have dealt with that, so it has to be satellite-driven, which is pretty freakin’ sophisticated."

It baffles me how narrow minded people can become once the mainstream technology is ubiquitous on every corner, it's like thinking of other possibilities is a hard wall. If I would do that with a drone I would use analog transmission using a Yagi antenna with a good reflector and I could definitely steer the drone more than 30 Km away from it:

https://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/0...

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