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Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by hoppyhoppy2 »

floatingatoll wrote: post #51

I'd like to call out the problem with these things. From the transcript: > ATTEMPTED TO CAPTURE CAMERA FOOTAGE BUT UNABLE I assume it's slightly harder than duct-taping a smartphone to a helicopter, but I'm still confused at how the military does not, by now, have high-fidelity panoramic video recordings figured out. They've had fifty years of UFOs nonsense and they still can't film the airspace around them in panora…

These were CBP and Tucson PD helicopters, not military ones. For all we know the military might have their own separate footage, or perhaps it was even a US military drone.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by yardie »

ghaff wrote: post #36
Ancapistani wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're possibly violating airspace of people's property There is no such thing in the United States. All airspace is under federal jurisdiction, and the only agency with rule making authority is the FAA.

Clearly people have some rights to the space over their property. Case law isn't well established but, outside of airport landing rights, the consensus seems to be something like 400 feet which is in general uncontrolled airspace. https://aerocorner.com/blog/drone-over-private-property/ I probably won't shoot down a delivery drone though I may file a complaint. But if a drone starts poking around at low altitude over…

Property rights in the US are particularly funny. You don’t own as much as you think you do. The land deed you have is a 2D plot of land. There are also mineral rights, air rights, and raparian rights. That last one is the rights to collect water in your land. Most likely there is a water management authority who owns the rain water in your property. Unless your deed specifically states you own mineral rights a mining company can dig or drill right under your land.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by pengaru »

LinuxBender wrote: post #7

Somewhat off topic, what I find curious is that gangs have not yet started really making use of drones. I've heard of them being used to drop drugs and phones into prisons, but not much else. Some of the higher end hobby drones can fly just as high as general aviation aircraft and really fast and carry a lot of weight. Or perhaps I have missed the stories?

A cafe I used to frequent became a meth-dealers' hub of operations.

One exceptional day he seemed to be coordinating receipt of some large shipment, and he started freaking out about some truck driver not being where he was supposed to be who apparently had a tail to monitor his whereabouts.

Over the phone with the tail, quite loudly despite being on public display, he instructed the tail to "deploy the kite". Once deployed, he monitored a video+audio feed on his laptop from what must have been a kite surveillance drone. From the feed he seemed to discover the driver was on the phone arguing with his wife, and apparently this was the reason for pulling over.

Based on this experience I'm under the impression gangs are definitely already using drones. You probably don't hear much about it, because they're being successful.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by manwe150 »

thrill wrote: post #53
ghaff wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly people have some rights to the space over their property. Case law isn't well established but, outside of airport landing rights, the consensus seems to be something like 400 feet which is in general uncontrolled airspace. https://aerocorner.com/blog/drone-over-private-property/ I probably won't shoot down a delivery drone though I may file a complaint. But if a drone starts poking around at low altitude over…

Anyone that starts taking potshots at drones over their property is risking federal charges for shooting at an aircraft.

I thought (more relevantly) there were also laws about shooting without a backdrop to catch stray bullets, since this sounds like a densely populated area, also perhaps shooting towards people: bullets that go up, come down again somewhere else at nearly the same speed.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by dreamcompiler »

"There's no line of sight...it must be satellite controlled."

Oh FFS. There's a lot of real estate on the ground where an operator could have been sitting and flying the thing with a high-powered FPV rig. FPV systems don't require satellites, and you can put a basic one together for less than $1000.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by floatingatoll »

hoppyhoppy2 wrote: post #61
floatingatoll wrote: post #51

I'd like to call out the problem with these things. From the transcript: > ATTEMPTED TO CAPTURE CAMERA FOOTAGE BUT UNABLE I assume it's slightly harder than duct-taping a smartphone to a helicopter, but I'm still confused at how the military does not, by now, have high-fidelity panoramic video recordings figured out. They've had fifty years of UFOs nonsense and they still can't film the airspace around them in panora…

These were CBP and Tucson PD helicopters, not military ones. For all we know the military might have their own separate footage, or perhaps it was even a US military drone.

Ah. Thanks, I'll read the article again.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by colinmhayes »

LinuxBender wrote: post #7

Somewhat off topic, what I find curious is that gangs have not yet started really making use of drones. I've heard of them being used to drop drugs and phones into prisons, but not much else. Some of the higher end hobby drones can fly just as high as general aviation aircraft and really fast and carry a lot of weight. Or perhaps I have missed the stories?

I'm surprised no one has been assassinated by a drone. Train a computer vision model for the target, attach a gun, and let it fly around until the person is found.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by nszceta »

yardie wrote: post #62
ghaff wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly people have some rights to the space over their property. Case law isn't well established but, outside of airport landing rights, the consensus seems to be something like 400 feet which is in general uncontrolled airspace. https://aerocorner.com/blog/drone-over-private-property/ I probably won't shoot down a delivery drone though I may file a complaint. But if a drone starts poking around at low altitude over…

Property rights in the US are particularly funny. You don’t own as much as you think you do. The land deed you have is a 2D plot of land. There are also mineral rights, air rights, and raparian rights. That last one is the rights to collect water in your land. Most likely there is a water management authority who owns the rain water in your property. Unless your deed specifically states you own mineral rights a minin…

You don't own anything if the government can confiscate it for failing to make indefinite recurrent payments on it.

As long as you pay property tax your property is really owned by Uncle Sam.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by temp0826 »

ghaff wrote: post #36
Ancapistani wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're possibly violating airspace of people's property There is no such thing in the United States. All airspace is under federal jurisdiction, and the only agency with rule making authority is the FAA.

Clearly people have some rights to the space over their property. Case law isn't well established but, outside of airport landing rights, the consensus seems to be something like 400 feet which is in general uncontrolled airspace. https://aerocorner.com/blog/drone-over-private-property/ I probably won't shoot down a delivery drone though I may file a complaint. But if a drone starts poking around at low altitude over…

Contemplating buying some of these-

https://www.budk.com/12-Gauge-Skynet-Drone-Defense--3-Pack-3...

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