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No. You are wrong. I have reported your comment for misinformation. [1] Study: Fully vaccinated people with "breakthrough" COVID Delta infections carry as much virus as the unvaccinated [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-vaccine-delta-variant...
That is not remotely related to what you claimed, genius. Try again
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No. You are wrong. I have reported your comment for misinformation. [1] Study: Fully vaccinated people with "breakthrough" COVID Delta infections carry as much virus as the unvaccinated [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-vaccine-delta-variant...
That is not remotely related to what you claimed, genius. Try again
It was an absolutely, on the money, defense of truth.
Get out of here you shill.
This Unlike previous vaccines such as polio and others, these vaccines are effective, but these mRNA vaccines are not effective so they are called experimental vaccines and humans are experimental on a global scale.
(01) Imperfect Vaccination May Increase Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens https://t.co/pkzEYlExvR
(02) Imperfect vaccines and pathogen virulence evolution https://www.nature.com/articles/414751a
A 'leak' vaccine is a vaccine that is ineffective, imperfect, even people who have been vaccinated can become infected and are generally asymptomatic (OTG) and that do not prevent transmission from people who have been vaccinated, and this indirectly places people who are not vaccinated is more risky than when the vaccine has not been used that comes from people who have been vaccinated.
Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens https://t.co/pkzEYlExvR
Imperfect vaccines and the evolution of pathogen virulence https://www.nature.com/articles/414751a
leaky vaccines, super-spreads, and variant acceleration https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/leaky-vaccines-super-spre...
Why the evolution of vaccine resistance is less of a concern than the evolution of drug resistance https://www.pnas.org/content/115/51/12878
Vaccines Could Drive The Evolution Of More COVID-19 Mutants https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965703047/vaccines-could-driv...
Vaccine-driven virulence evolution: consequences of unbalanced reductions in mortality and transmission and implications for pertussis vaccines https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31822219/
Virulence evolution in response to vaccination: The case of malaria https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2663389/
Vaccine-driven virulence evolution: consequences of unbalanced reductions in mortality and transmission and implications for pertussis vaccines https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsif.2019.064...
Assessing the risk of vaccine-driven virulence evolution in SARS-CoV-2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.01.20241836v...
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There's a legit conspiracy with this very narrative. We have a handful of companies who have just been showered in public funds in the hopes that they produce something to make themselves irrelevant. It's not hard to believe that they'll lobby for the boosters regardless of the data.
That's a really bad characterization though, the vaccine studies were designed with the participation of government scientists (for sure with Moderna, which was developed in partnership with NIH). The idea that the corporate scientists are all utterly corrupt and also so much better at science that they can undermine the effectiveness of the vaccines without ruining them completely is nonsensical.
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I replied to the last paragraph of parent poster. If you study the few people getting dose 3 two weeks after, you're not going to learn anything about effectiveness of dose 3.
If I understand what you're saying, that's not what was done, at least here in Israel. After the 3rd vaccine, afaik, they compared the rates of hospitalizations of people do did vs. didn't yet get the 3rd vaccine, as compared to what happened the week before. They saw a drop in 3rd-vaccinated, and only in 3rd-vaccinated, implying that it did have an effect. And this wasn't a small population (I don't know exact numbe…
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But the spike is what is important, targeting the rest just makes the immune system make antibodies that don't do anything.
Are you a medical professional researcher? You are wrong though.
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Are you a medical professional researcher? You are wrong though.
Just repeating what decades of SARS research has discovered. Maybe I'm wrong, but highly unlikely that something else would work when it hasn't in the past.
Having parts of the spike protein targeted helps with existing variants, but not with new variants that might escape those markers. Delta is weakening the effects of vaccines already. Sure, booster shots might include new markers, but it's still a narrow moving target.
However, natural infection will provide broader immune response and antibodies. So if one could be sure to remain in good health, infection is much less terrible after two vaccine shots. That might provide additional protection that vaccines may not. It's more random though, but researchers are not foreign to the idea.
Nobody is able to predict future outcomes of it, but at some point society will need to accept widely spread of infections and deal with those outcomes. Hopefully, vaccine shots is enough to deal with the initial shock so the body can do the rest. It's not just about avoiding killing old people, but also avoiding degrading public health too much.
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Just repeating what decades of SARS research has discovered. Maybe I'm wrong, but highly unlikely that something else would work when it hasn't in the past.
We are likely both wrong in some way, what a novel concept! ;) Having parts of the spike protein targeted helps with existing variants, but not with new variants that might escape those markers. Delta is weakening the effects of vaccines already. Sure, booster shots might include new markers, but it's still a narrow moving target. However, natural infection will provide broader immune response and antibodies. So if o…
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We are likely both wrong in some way, what a novel concept! ;) Having parts of the spike protein targeted helps with existing variants, but not with new variants that might escape those markers. Delta is weakening the effects of vaccines already. Sure, booster shots might include new markers, but it's still a narrow moving target. However, natural infection will provide broader immune response and antibodies. So if o…
Delta is weakening vaccines, but it is weakening natural immunity even more.