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New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I simply dont have facebook, twitter or tiktok installed on my phone.

You have better self-control than me.

To some degree it can be improved. Putting the phone physically out of reach works best for me. Strangely, being well rested helps me too.

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #21

New? Can't you buy this for $80 at any CVS or Walgreens? "Companies including Nokia Corp. still manufacture “feature phones,” devices that look, feel and operate like the cellphones of the ’00s. But most feature phones still follow a design philosophy of abundance, cramming all the features they can into a limited operating system, said Petter Neby..." Bullshit. They can't get on the Internet, that's what matters. Yo…

If you're in the US, $5 from Tracfone, though it's locked to them. $15/month for unlimited talk/text. https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/alcat...

You can even get plans where you pay a small amount per year and get X amount of minutes and Y amount of texts per month if you don't use a phone that often.

Great for an emergency phone to keep in your car.

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

#43
post #14

Looking at the official website trying to understand what's the value of this mobile phone over any cheap feature phone from Nokia: https://mudita.com/products/pure/ . The device has an e-ink display and claims to have a very good speaker. The operating system has a meditation app and an "inspirational quotes" app. I'm still curious about which kind of person would purchase a device like this instead of a feature pho…

The focus on radiation is... strange. It even shows up under the SIM card section:

"Although we would have liked to only use 2G, the least harmful radio frequency, it is currently being phased out around the world. We spent a good amount of time trying to find a flexible, modern and global GSM module, which could be used for travelling anywhere in the world. With the user’s health in mind, Pure always chooses the lowest spectrum available to limit radiation."

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #20

I need a connected phone that isn't built for addiction. For example, I need Uber for the rare cases where I'm in a jam at 3 AM and need to get back home. I need maps for when I'm looking for directions. I need a web browser to access my bank and the occasional Google search. I can live with or without Whatsapp or Signal, that depends on how much you use it I guess. However, I don't need Facebook, Twitter or TikTok o…

What would be cool is if voice assistants get to the point where you can just talk to the phone to get an Uber etc.

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #20

I need a connected phone that isn't built for addiction. For example, I need Uber for the rare cases where I'm in a jam at 3 AM and need to get back home. I need maps for when I'm looking for directions. I need a web browser to access my bank and the occasional Google search. I can live with or without Whatsapp or Signal, that depends on how much you use it I guess. However, I don't need Facebook, Twitter or TikTok o…

> However, I don't need Facebook, Twitter or TikTok or any social app. So... don't install those apps? I guess that's easier said than done. I keep an `/etc/hosts` list of distracting websites (includes HN) and route them all back to my hobby trello task board. Message to myself being, "hey, distractions from work are fine, but wouldn't you rather be working on one of these things than screwing around in a comments s…

Is this etc/hosts on Android?

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #20

I need a connected phone that isn't built for addiction. For example, I need Uber for the rare cases where I'm in a jam at 3 AM and need to get back home. I need maps for when I'm looking for directions. I need a web browser to access my bank and the occasional Google search. I can live with or without Whatsapp or Signal, that depends on how much you use it I guess. However, I don't need Facebook, Twitter or TikTok o…

Perhaps this would be better as an Android ROM than its own phone?

My sony z5c (4.6 inches) has this "ultra stamina" mode that basically turns it into a feature phone.

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #36
post #20

I need a connected phone that isn't built for addiction. For example, I need Uber for the rare cases where I'm in a jam at 3 AM and need to get back home. I need maps for when I'm looking for directions. I need a web browser to access my bank and the occasional Google search. I can live with or without Whatsapp or Signal, that depends on how much you use it I guess. However, I don't need Facebook, Twitter or TikTok o…

My relationship with my phone greatly improved when I turned on DoNotDisturb mode and hid all of the red county icon widgets … many years ago. It’s the best. Your phone no longer distracts you. Can’t. The temptation is still there in your pocket, but if you’re doing stuff and mind isn’t looking for distraction, you won’t even notice your phone exists.

Good advice. Now we just need to apply this type of thinking across the entire app and OS ecosystem. I never want to be prompted for any sort of permissions or accidentally grant some while clicking to dismiss the wave of prompts you sometime encounter.

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post #10

I enjoy mindlessly scrolling social media when waiting for the bus. It takes my mind off the banality of doing that. It also makes time go by quicker, which is what you want when waiting for anything . I don't agree with this current wave of demonisation of smartphones. If you want you can flash a Pixel with LineageOS and install a bunch of FOSS apps from F-Droid if you're concerned about privacy.

It’s because people demonise “wasting time”. People take themselves too seriously.

Max Weber had things to say about this Puritan ethic [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_S...

Also:

"No person, householder or other, shall spend his time idly or unprofitably, under pain of such punishment as the court shall think meet to inflict"

-- Bay Colony General Court, 1633.

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

#49
post #18

Pretty worthless without WhatsApp, which in many countries is the only way to actually make calls and send texts. They state in their FAQ that they have no intention to support it.

Possibly ignorant question: Is there no way to create an app that works in the WhatsApp ecosystem?

Re: New phone can make calls and send texts, but it cannot access social media

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post #10

I enjoy mindlessly scrolling social media when waiting for the bus. It takes my mind off the banality of doing that. It also makes time go by quicker, which is what you want when waiting for anything . I don't agree with this current wave of demonisation of smartphones. If you want you can flash a Pixel with LineageOS and install a bunch of FOSS apps from F-Droid if you're concerned about privacy.

It’s because people demonise “wasting time”. People take themselves too seriously.

Problem is when you get addicted and end up spending over an hour scrolling content in a vegetable state and lack the energy to do anything else.
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