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Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by SevenSigs »

h2odragon wrote: post #19

> hydrogen sulfide from water pumped in from the Lower Floridan Aquifer. Those who have not experienced Florida water do not recognize just how big a deal that is. The water is "potable", sure, but it's viciously stinky. Some people can't adapt to it at all. I've known people who lost livestock they imported, because it couldn't adapt to the water.

I solved the problem with this: https://www.amazon.com/Injection-manganese-Removal-Oxidizing... ... works really well and requires little/no maintenance for the first few years. Before that I had a chlorine injection system and it was a nightmare (maintenance-wise).

Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by sandworm101 »

jefftk wrote: post #10

It sounds like if people do not cut back, then they will do the reasonable thing and prioritize sending oxygen to the hospitals, accepting that this means people's tap water will start smelling sulfurous [EDIT: and maybe need boiling before drinking] > To reduce demand for liquid oxygen, OUC is asking water customers to immediately limit irrigating their lawns and landscapes. If OUC’s liquid oxygen supplies continue…

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Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by jcranmer »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #7
konschubert wrote: post #3

Can’t you bring in liquid oxygen from other areas of the country by truck?

Better yet, couldn’t you use electricity to break up some water molecules, so sulfide oxidation happens in situ? As an extra bonus, hydrogen fuel.

The actual chemical used in treatment here is ozone, not oxygen. Ozone is not stable enough to be transported any great distance, so it has to be made on-site, which involves zapping oxygen with electrical arcs. The oxygen feed must be a pure oxygen atmosphere, unless you want your ozone to be heavily contaminated with various nitrogen oxides. So you need pure oxygen in industrial quantities, which means shipping in liquid oxygen.

Industrially, oxygen comes from filtering it out of the air--air is about 22% oxygen, after all. It's possible to do that on site, but the maintenance of the machine to filter it isn't really worth it compared to just ordering a new tanker of liquid oxygen every few days.

Another issue with breaking up water molecules is you need a fairly pure source of water to do that. The water in a water treatment plant is anything but pure.

Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by Forge36 »

snedfree wrote: post #20
jefftk wrote: post #10

It sounds like if people do not cut back, then they will do the reasonable thing and prioritize sending oxygen to the hospitals, accepting that this means people's tap water will start smelling sulfurous [EDIT: and maybe need boiling before drinking] > To reduce demand for liquid oxygen, OUC is asking water customers to immediately limit irrigating their lawns and landscapes. If OUC’s liquid oxygen supplies continue…

not precisely-- while the ozone they produce from liquid oxygen does serve the purpose of making the water more palatable, it serves a higher purpose as their primary disinfectant. the faq in the link you provided states that OUD doesn't have the capacity to sufficiently disinfect water using chlorine alone if people do not cut back, Orlando will have to issue a boil-water notice

If people aren't aware of the notification will the water quality decrease be followed by an increase in hospitalizations?

Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by throw3849 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #22
jefftk wrote: post #10

It sounds like if people do not cut back, then they will do the reasonable thing and prioritize sending oxygen to the hospitals, accepting that this means people's tap water will start smelling sulfurous [EDIT: and maybe need boiling before drinking] > To reduce demand for liquid oxygen, OUC is asking water customers to immediately limit irrigating their lawns and landscapes. If OUC’s liquid oxygen supplies continue…

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Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

quux wrote: post #27
jordemort wrote: post #25

Have any of the waterparks or amusement parks been asked to cut back at all?

How much additional water does a waterproof need per day? I imagine they reuse as much as they possibly can.

As much as they can, sure, but you can only optimize so much when your setup is a giant exercise in maximizing evaporative surface area

Re: Orlando urges residents to conserve water because of surge in hospitalizations

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Post by tgtweak »

SevenSigs wrote: post #21
h2odragon wrote: post #19

> hydrogen sulfide from water pumped in from the Lower Floridan Aquifer. Those who have not experienced Florida water do not recognize just how big a deal that is. The water is "potable", sure, but it's viciously stinky. Some people can't adapt to it at all. I've known people who lost livestock they imported, because it couldn't adapt to the water.

I solved the problem with this: https://www.amazon.com/Injection-manganese-Removal-Oxidizing... ... works really well and requires little/no maintenance for the first few years. Before that I had a chlorine injection system and it was a nightmare (maintenance-wise).

Very cool solution. I know many people that spent an extra $15k to drill 200+ft deep wells into the aquifer just to avoid the sulphur smell in the water from shallow wells. This would be a very cost effective workaround.
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