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Why not fight heart disease with this voracity, since it kills more people?
There's not a single heart disease, and a lot of cardiovascular issues are caused by bad habits rather than infectious pathogens.
Purely anecdotal but I'm double vaccinated (Astra Zeneca) and I caught Covid recently. It was probably Delta as 99% of cases in UK are. I know of quite a few vaccinated friends who've caught it recently too. Mainly AZ I think but one was Pfizer (single jabbed). Anyway, none of us had severe illness although I felt pretty rough for a few days like I had a really bad cold and smell went for a week completely. I was bas…
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Because mass vaccination combined with a vaccine that does not necessarily prevent infection and transmission creates selective pressure that is likely to further enhance the fitness of the virus and will lead to variants that escape the immune response in both vaccinated and naturally infected individuals. Excerpts from [1]: - "The spike protein receptor-binding domain (RBD) of SARS-CoV-2 is the molecular target for…
> Because mass vaccination combined with a vaccine that does not necessarily prevent infection and transmission creates selective pressure that is likely to further enhance the fitness of the virus and will lead to variants that escape the immune response in both vaccinated and naturally infected individuals. And yet, the Delta variant evolved in an 100% unvaccinated population - and is quite happily punching through…
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Note that it appears that it is still unknown how likely breakthrough infections are to result in long Covid. The very limited data that does exist indicates that the likelyhood is rather high (~20%). https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/well/live/vaccine-long-co...
Long Covid has the same symptoms as stress, anxiety and depression, which are to be expected after contracting a pandemic level virus and being forced to isolate. Is there any proof yet that it is any more than that?
The social isolation, stress, lack of sun and exercise, bad diets, and other side effects of the hypochondriac society we now live in are largely responsible for what is called long-covid.
I think lung damage found in some cases is likely fairly typical post-covid, but my theory is that this is common after any harsh illness involving the respiratory system whether it’s cold/flu/covid, we just weren’t looking for it nearly as often before.
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I'm counting ICU admissions among the unvaccinated separately, not against the population as a whole. When you consider that the majority of the population (65% total, 80% eligible) is vaccinated, then you have to separate the two groups because the outcomes are totally different. But I did spot something wrong with the way I'm counting, so yes the 10% is probably wrong. The reason is that the daily new case count gi…
Your biggest problem is that your data isn't accurate. The page notes that it's case count isn't necessarily correct. This page shows the total case delta at 650 for today versus yesterday: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/case-numbers-and-spread Whereas the spreadsheet from your page says 426. It's not even clear to me that the 650 number is accurate because not everyone may necessarily be reporting they have COVID.…
Date covid19_cases_unvac covid19_cases_partial_vac covid19_cases_full_vac covid19_cases_vac_unknown
2021-08-20 426 64 103 57
But please, go on. "Your biggest problem" is that you don't read. Just like the 90% in Israel stuff.
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Each of these scenarios was predictable and in fact, predicted by many. Yet here we are, still pretending to be shocked at the intensity of human autonomy. If your plan requires everyone on earth to cooperate, it’s not a good plan.
You realize that the way other diseases were eradicated required the cooperation of everyone on earth? Or at least in most countries. The reason we don't get polio in virtually any country on earth is because of global cooperation in the face of a disease with a known mitigation. Barely 500 known cases world-wide in 2019. Thanks to global cooperation. Too bad propaganda and social media probably ruined our chances of…
The polio vaccine being a sterilizing one is certainly a _major_ reason for its success. The Covid vaccine, by contrast, does not confer sterilizing immunity. Polio also spreads through contaminated food and water, not the exhaled breath of the infected. So other than those minor things, great comparison.
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At least in the case of vitamin D it's hardly pseudoscience. Multiple clinical studies have found that hypovitaminosis D is a serious risk factor for COVID-19. https://vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca/
It is correlated, but I am not aware of even a single study that shows actual causal determination.
COVID-19 and Vitamin D | Association Between Vitamin D Deficiency and COVID-19
Purely anecdotal but I'm double vaccinated (Astra Zeneca) and I caught Covid recently. It was probably Delta as 99% of cases in UK are. I know of quite a few vaccinated friends who've caught it recently too. Mainly AZ I think but one was Pfizer (single jabbed). Anyway, none of us had severe illness although I felt pretty rough for a few days like I had a really bad cold and smell went for a week completely. I was bas…
Thanks for sharing your experience. >"... Of course the thing to emphasise is that, whilst it might break through, the vaccine still stops serious illness to a high degree...." Important to note, vaccines do not protect you, its the immune response they trigger and the level of antibodies that will protect you. What really should be happening should be a mass vaccination program and a mass antibodies level testing pr…
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First off, I'm sorry you had to suffer like that - and I don't want anyone to be denied healthcare. > I’d rather vaccinate and mask up then be denied healthcare You've presented a false dichotomy here - mass vaccination and masking will not necessarily prevent overwhelmed hospitals. Israel is a prime example - with one of the highest vaccination rates in the world - their hospitals are being overwhelmed right now due…
Only 66% of Israelis are fully vaccinated: there's a good 3 million hard-core religious orthodox who won't let science interfere with their deity's will. 3 million of blissfully and deliberately ignorant individuals who won't adapt their social behavior to avoid viral spread is more than enough to overrun any health system.
It's not the ultra orthodox who really stand out. There's about 30% in the general 20-29 groups who haven't taken their shots (going down to about 20% in 30-39 and down to 10% in the 60+ group), and many Arabs who are reluctant to do so too.
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You were (legitimately) attacking my numbers elsewhere but here you are posting completely inaccurate information. Israel is nowhere close to "90%" vaccinated. Haaretz from 4 days ago reports them at 78%: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-vaccine-data-how-... Given the vaccine is not approved for people under 12, there's no way it could be 90%, as 28% of their population is 0-14 years old: https://en.wikiped…
I misremembered. It was 90% of people over 50 that were vaccinated. It's in the article I linked. But I don't think that discredits my main point, that increased vaccination rates aren't going to eliminate the virus entirely and that natural immunity is actually doing better.
Maybe in some US states where the disease was horribly mismanaged that number is much higher, but it's a) not reliably counted b) badly researched. Knowing whether someone is "naturally immune" is a big roll of the dice, whereas we know for sure when someone is vaccinated.
And to get to a high "natural" immunity rate requires unnecessary death and suffering.
But yes, half of the 18-29 year olds here seem to be rolling the dice and playing this "natural immunity" game; which is why they are now the vast majority of hospital admissions for this disease.