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I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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This is an age-old concern, and there's a traditional approach: tithing. Automatically donate 10% of your after-tax income to a charity you believe in. Then stop thinking about it except in special emergencies. Tune the percentage as you wish, but make that decision once (or infrequently) and keep it out of your daily anxieties.

10% seems appropriate for those of limited means. I'm not sure it applies to those of us more fortunate.

Yes, but you can spend your whole life worrying about appropriate amount to donate, without donating anything in the meantime.

10% is a good start. If you think it's too little, you can adjust upwards later. While you're making up your mind, you'll still be giving that 10%!

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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Bioethicist/philosopher Peter Singer disagrees. "if you are living comfortably while others are hungry or dying from easily preventable diseases, and you are doing nothing about it, there is something wrong with your behavior." [1] I'm inclined to agree with him. This is my current moral quandry, since my income is about to dramatically increase. I'm looking for a new car. I can pay in cash. I could pay $90K for a Po…

Funny how Peter Singer condemns comfort while living comfortably enough to have the time to write and publish a dozen books [1]. That time could've really helped a lot of people. Wonder what his thoughts on hypocrisy are. For me, other people's problems aren't my problem. If I won a billion dollars I'd probably donate to things generously out of mild interest in trying to make the world more to my liking, but that's…

>For me, other people's problems aren't my problem.

Just hope that in whatever society you live in, the people who do have problems don't get to a point in which they're so desperate they turn to violence against you, if you so have a lifestyle in which they feel you should be helping maintain said society.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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What is the point of writing a letter like this to a money advice column? His only question is, "Was I wrong in not telling anyone about my winnings?" Surely by 67 you should understand that wrong is the eye of the beholder. Only you can answer whether you did right or wrong, although I will say that sending a letter to an advice column is a signal that you are not completely satisfied with your decision. Honestly th…

I'm not sure about bragging, but it struck me that given that winners identity (at least names) are publicly available, the rough amount, and the rough time, he is pretty much outing himself. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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I made 25m with crypto over the last 10 years. Never told anyone, not my friends, not my gf, not my family. Half a year ago I quit my job and now everyone thinks I am unemployed. How to stop my friends sending me job offers for full-time php developement?

You could say you work remotely as a consultant.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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Bioethicist/philosopher Peter Singer disagrees. "if you are living comfortably while others are hungry or dying from easily preventable diseases, and you are doing nothing about it, there is something wrong with your behavior." [1] I'm inclined to agree with him. This is my current moral quandry, since my income is about to dramatically increase. I'm looking for a new car. I can pay in cash. I could pay $90K for a Po…

Unknown people in far away countries don't matter at all. Might as well put the money on fire, the outcome would be about the same. There's probably enough people in your local community that need help of some sort where you could make an actual difference.

What goes wrong in ones life to end up with a mindset like this.

If what you say is true, then you too very much don't matter at all, and the billionaires should quickly exterminate you as you're simply a waste of the planets finite resource of which they require.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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I made 25m with crypto over the last 10 years. Never told anyone, not my friends, not my gf, not my family. Half a year ago I quit my job and now everyone thinks I am unemployed. How to stop my friends sending me job offers for full-time php developement?

You could say you're working a modest remote job.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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> For me, other people's problems aren't my problem. If your luck runs out, we'll be here to help you.

I highly doubt that you, specifically, or any other commenter in this thread will do anything to help me if I run into trouble. And if one were willing to do something, I would hope that they'd choose to channel their help towards someone their know deserves it like a loved one; not me, who as far as you know could just make up a fake sob story to con selfless strangers on the internet.

Too late, we probably already paid for your K-12 education.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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It changed my life. I went from debt to significant savings/investments in under 5 years when I did it. Think of whatever your rent/mortgage is per month. Think of getting that sort of raise. How would it change your life? Money/debt became a tool instead of a burden for me personally.

Preach brother. Its the psychological value, not some optimisation on a spreadsheet.

Even 'on the spreadsheet' it is borderline a wash. There is a very slight advantage to not paying it off depending on which state you live in and what their tax rates are. Thats if you can get the hypothetical 2% loan and 8% ROI per year. Many people forget taxes in that mix.

If you are comfortable with that go for it! Seriously. But paying it off simplified so many things in my life. I am now getting to a point where I could think about helping others with it. Which in and of itself is something you need to put thought into.

Also if you have a huge sum of cash you want 'safe bets' and 'gamble bets' and 'medium bets'. Buying property is usually in the 'safe bet' area. 'safe bets' you can realistically borrow against if something goes wrong with the other two catagories.

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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Classic Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vzgl/you_just_... > Congratulations! You just won millions of dollars in the lottery! That's great. > Now you're fucked. > No really. > You are. > You're fucked. This guy did exactly the right thing.

It's such a low bar to pass. The guy in the article is 67, makes 1MM+ in interest a year, and won't even consider telling his friends or family? Or donating a penny of it? Is there not room for a middle ground here? What about: "Hey, I made a million bucks in the lottery/stocks/crypto. I heard you're having a tough time, take this -- you don't owe me anything. Wishing you well, -Dave."

> Is there not room for a middle ground here?

Probably difficult. If I would do it would trigger some sort of chain reaction => probably difficult to keep it contained => I would have to try to at least act slowly & do stuff step-by-step.

Personally for me it would be really hard if not impossible not to tell my parents, hehe.

But once a bigger audience would become aware of that, e.g. cousins, then it could start getting very complicated (e.g. if I would end up donating $ to cousin X because s/he has financial problems or I just want to be nice, then cousin Y or nephew W might want to know why s/he's not getting anything, etc...).

People to whom I donate money to might end up quickly losing it (bad investment because of multiple potential reasons, most famous one just not being used to have to deal with such an amount of money), then once they lost it they might come back to me asking for a "replay" (e.g. "pls. save me, you gave me $$ but I screwed up and made debts - you've done it once so can you give me a 2nd chance! Pleasepleaseplease!") and saying "no" will make them angry and because of the whole situation (which would basically be something which I triggered) I might end up feeling like I own them something, with the final result that the relationship would suffer even if originally it was good (all all $ would be gone).

All this is not irrealistic - e.g. I saw in the past some short documentaries about NFL and soccer players screwing up their lifes because of all the money they got all of a sudden.

Personally I think that I would probably try to create some kind of "cover story" (e.g. something involving having "earned" it the hard way - because just saying e.g. "I won it" might make people start to think "s/he got the $ easily therefore chances might be high that s/he'll easily share some of it with me" but on the other hand that's probably less likely to happen if I would say "I had to 100 hours a week during the last 5 years") and I would probably say that I got a lot less (e.g. 3-5M $) which would just be fine to give me a chance to raise a bit my standard of living and stop working after having paid taxes but not to give out left&right money for free. Even the question "stop working?" might not be easy to answer (maybe just do something part-time, otherwise by not working at all I would feel disconnected from all my friends & colleagues)

Even if I would manage to keep everything absolutely secret and not to do anything with that $, my bank WOULD call me asking what I plan to do with the $M that are parked on my account, probably asking for an appointment to tell me about many interesting investment opportunities => that's a difficult situation for any person who's not used to deal with this stuff, e.g. people might not want to admit (or just would not be aware) that they don't understand the risks linked to some investments/financial products/whatever. Saying "no" is often a lot harder than to say "yes" :)

Re: I won over $55M in the lottery, but didn’t tell my friends or family

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What Dave does with his money is none of your concern. But since he put it out in the public, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. You see, that's the point of not telling anyone. Everyone has an opinion and once they know a little something about anything they want to share it. Most of those opinions are how to separate Dave from his money. Nobody needs that in their lives. Not Dave. Not anyone. He was right…

Our anonymous Dave has a tremendous excess of wealth that far exceeds his needs and his ability or desire to spend it. He asked "Was I wrong in not telling anyone about my winnings?" My response was to that. Maybe sharing it, rather than concealing it, might actually make his life a little better (there is a soft joy in giving), and bring him closer to the needs of people around him. I don't see why you think I cross…

> My response was to that. Maybe sharing it, rather than concealing it, might actually make his life a little better (there is a soft joy in giving), and bring him closer to the needs of people around him.

It would sure be nice to think that. But that's not how the world works. From the link I posted above, and very abridged:

> Jack Whittaker, a Johnny Cash attired, West Virginia native, is the poster boy for the dangers of a lump sum award. In 2002 Mr. Whittaker (55 years old at the time) won what was, also at the time, the largest single award jackpot in U.S. history. $315 million. At the time, he planned to live as if nothing had changed, or so he said. He was remarkably modest and decent before the jackpot, and his ship sure came in, right? Wrong.

> Mr. Whittaker became the subject of a number of personal challenges, escalating into personal tragedies, complicated by a number of legal troubles.

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> Whittaker quickly became the subject of a number of financial stalkers, who would lurk at his regular breakfast hideout and accost him with suggestions for how to spend his money. They were unemployed. No, an interview tomorrow morning wasn't good enough. They needed cash NOW. Perhaps they had a sure-fire business plan. Their daughter had cancer. A niece needed dialysis. Needless to say, Whittaker stopped going to his breakfast haunt. Eventually, they began ringing his doorbell. Sometimes in the early morning. Before long he was paying off-duty deputies to protect his family. He was accused of being heartless. Cold. Stingy.

> Letters poured in. Children with cancer. Diabetes. MS. You name it. He hired three people to sort the mail. A detective to filter out the false claims and the con men (and women) was retained.

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> Whittaker's car was twice broken into, by trusted acquaintances who watched him leave large amounts of cash in it. $500,000 and $200,000 were stolen in two separate instances. The thieves spiked Whittaker's drink with prescription drugs in the first instance. The second incident was the handiwork of his granddaughter's friends, who had been probing the girl for details on Whittaker's cash for weeks.

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> Whittaker invested quite a bit in his own businesses, tripled the number of people his businesses employed (making him one of the larger employers in the area) and eventually had given away $14 million to charity through a foundation he set up for the purpose. This is, of course, what you are "supposed" to do. Set up a foundation. Be careful about your charity giving. It made no difference in the end.

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> Today Whittaker is badly in debt, and bankruptcy looms large in his future.

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