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Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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The lesson, I guess, is that if you print money from some other dominant business unit, you don't have to have any other good ideas or execution.

Google has tons of other good ideas. They just seem to suck at executing them. And specifically, at evolving and supporting them.

Why do you think that is?

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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That's... well. Sometimes, timing is bad. I own a 2010 Mazda 6, which comes with bluetooth, but has no display whatsoever. I installed a custom head unit with Apple Car Play. Unfortunately, this head unit became unresponsive every once in a while, and only restarting the car would help. That annoyed the hell out of me. So I went back to the stock experience (it's BOSE after all), and tried to playback audio over blue…

I haven't ordered it yet, but found this 'portable' CarPlay device interesting. I uses wired CarPlay, but I'm ok with that. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/26/review-car-and-dr...

There are wired->wireless CarPlay adapters you /might/ be able to get working with this.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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I drive a ten year old car with no built in Android auto interface. Having Android auto in my phone has been a big deal for me. This sucks.

Same. Poking around "driving mode" right now and it seems pretty awful. Will take some getting used to.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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The fact that the situation exists where Google has two products that do the same thing and one of them has the same name as another of their products that does something different is just bad news overall. It's great that this specific instance will be resolved soon but are Google, as an organisation, learning any broader lessons at all?

At least these are two similar "driving mode android app" products. I feel like Microsoft is a worse offender at this. As soon as they get some traction with one product they start overloading the name. Think of all the unrelated products crammed together under the umbrellas: ".*365", "Visual Studio .*", "Surface .*"

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Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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What make/model car do you have and what doesn't work properly? I ask because I've never really encountered an issue with it other than the Waze UI suddenly disappearing.

I've used it in various cars (Ford Fusion, VW Tiguan, Audi Q5, Nissan Rogue) and it seems to have different issues with each car. On one the screen locks up, on another the volume doesn't work right, on a third the voice commands don't always work. I'm sure it's a nightmare for Google trying to make it work right with all the different automotive head units out there.

I honestly wonder if it's just your phone. I've been in 3 of the 4 you listed with a Pixel 1 and 3. With the fusion + Pixel 1 I did have one freeze in the very first version that supported AA, but no issues after the next patch.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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Does your car support wireless Android Auto? If not, try switching to a different cable. The push to wireless is because people are having all sorts of problems with patchy cables and then blame it on Android/phone/Google. Too bad only very recent cars support it. Mine does, it works great.

In case it doesn't, I can really recommend AAWireless [1]. I have it in my 2021 Zoe because the cable was quite awkward with my phone and it's super annoying to always plug it in. [1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aawireless#/

I can confirm AAWireless works fine - got it for my 2020 Volvo XC60 and it works without any issues. The only problem is that due to chip shortages their waitlist for one is very long currently.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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Just in case some people are confused: There are two different things with the same name - - Android Auto vehicle communication technology that mirrors your phone's screen to a vehicle's head unit. - Android Auto phone app that displays the same interface on your phone's screen like a normal app (e.g. mount your phone up high and use directly, or use some other screen mirroring technology to send it to the head unit)…

From the link in the article to https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/18535644/google-assistant-... , this "Google Assistant driving mode" looks like yet another "ML"-style the-product-manager-thinks-the-computer-should-tell-the-user-what-to-see experience instead of one that just shows the user stuff they ask for. Maybe that's just the homescreen and the actual UX for using it isn't that bad, but it's not promising so far.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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Does wireless Android Auto require a wifi unit inside the HU (wireless Apple CarPlay does)? This seems to be one of the main blockers to adoption by OEMs. AFAIK, in the US, only BMW has implemented wireless CarPlay/AndroidAuto across most of it's lineup. Edit - also, 100% agree on the cable. From my experience, if a cable is at all worn, it stops working in the car, even if it works just fine for charging or data tra…

Yes, of course it needs WiFi. Bluetooth doesn't have the bandwidth to carry the video stream.

Well, you say "of course" - I'm not sure how that's so obvious. Bluetooth can easily do 1mbps, and that's enough to send some encoded video, which AA does anyway, even with a cable connection the display gets really fully of artifacts and choppy sometimes, whatever compression they are using struggles. If you limited the number of updates per second I'm sure it would be fine over bluetooth alone.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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I haven't ordered it yet, but found this 'portable' CarPlay device interesting. I uses wired CarPlay, but I'm ok with that. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/26/review-car-and-dr...

There are wired->wireless CarPlay adapters you /might/ be able to get working with this.

I have a CPLAY2air and it has been great.

Re: Google is shutting down its Android Auto mobile app in favor of Google Assistant

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Is Google's rate of shutting down products really high or is this some cognitive bias (more headlines, more prominent products, higher number of products in the first place etc.)?

Hasn't it been noted that the way you get promoted at Google is participating in launching new products and that they dont really reward good maintenance of existing products? If so it's just everyone working the incentives.

If so, then the incentives are doing what they are designed to do and Google just doesn't maintain products. When executives design incentives, usually it's kind of obvious what most of the effects and side-effects will be. If something "bad" starts happening, they tweak the system. If it's left in place, it's working as designed.
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