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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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I can think of so many people who are radically more accomplished in vastly more interesting and important ways, it feels absurd to start listing because of how many I'd be leaving out by doing so.

Even naming a few would actually help your argument, since you can think of so many

Can you not? Like, how about people who have made major academic or philosophical breakthroughs? Major authors? Even within business, or celebrity, Elon doesn't stick out much other than filling a small niche.

The problem with naming them is that then it becomes a discussion on whether the people I've named are impressive. Someone mentioned Einstein and was downvoted. Einstein is very obviously more interesting and accomplished in my mind than Elon, but he's one of many. Turing was 23 when he wrote his thesis on algorithmic computation. There are people with multiple turing awards out there.

If your yard stick is "rich person who made more money" yes, or "CEO who makes memes", or "is a celebrity", Elon is impressive relative to the general population. It's a sad, sad way to measure accomplishments, but sure.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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It is interesting that many of the top comments are as dismissive as: “No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame,” When you look at Tesla’s talent in: AI + motors + batteries + manufacturing I can’t believe how negative and dismissive the comments are. Can we not have some appreciation for what Tesla HAS achieved vs only focusing on missed ship dates? The part that I think is going over peoples head is that for so m…

If my robot folds my laundry correctly for 99 days and on the 100th day shreds my wardrobe, I don't think that will print money (at least not for very long).

From what I’ve seen FSD makes minor mistakes that at high speeds lead to danger or death. I can’t see a minor mistake in folding laundry leading to the laundry being shredded. Musk said the robots would not be strong (only can lift 5lbs). So unless the robot picked up scissors it couldn’t shred the laundry.

Unless I’m missing something?

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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It is interesting that many of the top comments are as dismissive as: “No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame,” When you look at Tesla’s talent in: AI + motors + batteries + manufacturing I can’t believe how negative and dismissive the comments are. Can we not have some appreciation for what Tesla HAS achieved vs only focusing on missed ship dates? The part that I think is going over peoples head is that for so m…

Can you describe the manual labor field where 1% failure rate is acceptable? I am struggling to think of one.

I suppose it depends on the magnitude of the failure.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Lots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?

Have you seen the Boston Dynanics videos? If Tesla can do even minor improvement, say with how they do the joints or packaging it better - deciding different constraints to use as guidelines - then it doesn't seem too far fetched; price point will be another factor.

Except Boston Dynamics is a large well-funded, dedicated operation with probably the best robotics people money can buy. Also, they've been it for years and even then their top end humanoid stuff is still super bulky compared to what Elon showed today in their concept.

Also considering Tesla use all 3rd-party assembly-arms in their factories to build their cars, I'm having trouble seeing Tesla shipping anything this sleek and compact to a consumer market..

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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This reminds me of images from the 1900s depicting the future when there were humanoid robots with lots of arms cleaning lots of dishes at once. Of course, it turns out, we did invent a machine to wash dishes but its just called a dish washing machine and is way better at it than humans with arms. I can't imagine many tasks where a humanoid will be useful. I'm sure you could say that something like house construction…

The thing is, that this can work alongside humans. say you have 5 people bricklaying and one of those is this humanoid robot. its not a dramatic change from whats currently possible. They are a drop-in replacement. Think of it as a stepping stone. Like automated cars, Fully automated highways are a ways off where traffic lights are no longer needed, however automated cars that work alongside the rest of the roads are…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s17IAj-XpU

There are bricklaying robots now

I don't think they are used en masse but I think if we do get to the point of some type of brick laying robots being used it will surely be something like this that doesn't have the physical constraints of two arms with limited mobility + nowhere to store bricks

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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I can think of so many people who are radically more accomplished in vastly more interesting and important ways, it feels absurd to start listing because of how many I'd be leaving out by doing so.

name one then. I'm genuinely curious

Nikola Tesla.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#87
post #66

It is interesting that many of the top comments are as dismissive as: “No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame,” When you look at Tesla’s talent in: AI + motors + batteries + manufacturing I can’t believe how negative and dismissive the comments are. Can we not have some appreciation for what Tesla HAS achieved vs only focusing on missed ship dates? The part that I think is going over peoples head is that for so m…

This isn’t “no wireless, less space than a Nomad,” though. This is like RCA announcing an iPod in 1961, reasoning that because they already make magnetic tape and portable electronics, it’s only a matter of time before they’ll be able to fit 1000 songs in your pocket.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Sure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.

I can think of so many people who are radically more accomplished in vastly more interesting and important ways, it feels absurd to start listing because of how many I'd be leaving out by doing so.

Please name a few. We're all waiting. :)

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#89

This man is living every child’s dream. Imagine being a billionaire and thinking what you could do with all that money? Create a space travel company? Why not. Create a FAST electric car company? Why not. Boring company? Sounds boring but why not. Some people may not like him for his behavior or marketing tactics but hey, they officially spend $0 on marketing. Glad to see this in my lifetime.

Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking retard. "Every child's dream?" FUCK YOU. There are still children out there starving to death, and your stupid ass thinks they dream about trains? They dream about eating, fuckfaced retard. Suck my fucking Johnson, bitch. And then suck Elon's, 105 IQ consumerist moron.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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This won’t be vaporware forever. Seeing the latest from Boston Dynamics makes that abundantly clear. The utility for general purpose robots is immense in difficult environments like the surface of Mars, where O2 wouldn’t be needed. I anticipate a small number of companies making the hardware, and a large, diverse workforce training, supervising, and maintaining android fleets for a variety of tasks. The legal system…

General purpose field robots like this are further away than level 5 driving, by a long margin

I think they could see use in cities for delivery or patrol type jobs.

The stakes are so much lower for a 50kg robot moving at walking pace compared to a car.

Consider a pizza delivery operation. You could imagine having dozens of robots delivering pizzas, and even if you had to have one or two humans driving around town getting robots out of stuck edge cases when they happened, it could still be a net gain.

Consider that Boston Dynamics Spot robot dog is already operating on industrial sites today. Having it stand upright is not too different from a deployability point of view (see the Atlas robot).

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