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Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by encryptluks2 »

hanniabu wrote: post #91
amiga1200 wrote: post #4

I’m slowly getting the impression that either there’s been a policy change at Apple in terms of customer privacy, or some other government pressure that’s causing all of these seemingly anti-privacy decisions to be made. I’m considering moving away from the Apple eco-system, any recommendations? I’m equally distrustful of Android (specifically Google). I feel like my only option is to compile and deploy my own versio…

> I’m slowly getting the impression that either there’s been a policy change at Apple in terms of customer privacy More likely that they never were for privacy and injury used it as a marketing ploy, putting on the mirage of being pro-privacy.

100% this. If you had said this a month ago you'd get viciously downvoted. People are finally waking up though.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by throwaway81523 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #63
pbreit wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow ANY of this advice and am unlikely to do so anytime soon.

Exactly. I’m not saying trust my employer or that I dont, I don’t care that much. Logging into slack on my phone doesn’t give them access to all my life. I don’t have to be a slave to the company but I don’t have to be a slave to paranoia either.

Proverb from HPMOR: It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by emodendroket »

ramraj07 wrote: post #63
pbreit wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow ANY of this advice and am unlikely to do so anytime soon.

Exactly. I’m not saying trust my employer or that I dont, I don’t care that much. Logging into slack on my phone doesn’t give them access to all my life. I don’t have to be a slave to the company but I don’t have to be a slave to paranoia either.

I used to be very strict but I kind of had to give in on the work email because it was so inconvenient. From what I’ve read on iOS this gives them fairly limited access to my activities. Well, hopefully true.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by lamontcg »

Wonder when we hit the point where we're just workers 24/7 and our Alexa/Siri devices are spying on what we say constantly and scoring it against a neural net which computes a terrorism risk score, with employees getting an extra unionization score which is sent to a special internal team to handle.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by emodendroket »

willcipriano wrote: post #120
jptech wrote: post #104

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I don't ger this either. With TLS/SSL , how is it different than connecting to any public wifi?

"jptech used 6.8 gb last month, must be watching Youtube all day"

It’s not infrequent I’ll leave YouTube videos playing while I work on my actual work machine so I don’t think they need to do that much sleuth work if they want to accuse me of using YouTube on the clock.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by fenomas »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

I agree with most of this, but I'm curious about the specific case of Github. If I join a company, are there any big dangers to just having them add my personal GH account to their organizations or private repos, and then if I leave the company they can remove me again? This seems to be how a lot of developers in my orbit do things.

(I mean any dangers at the account/permissions/privacy level - separate from "having two separate accounts might be better for work/life balance" sorts of concerns.)

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Post by kondro »

fnord77 wrote: post #112
kondro wrote: post #103

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A new host with what hostname? Because git uses github.com for all repos.

put this in your ~/.ssh/config Host personal.github.com HostName github.com User git IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa_personal then clone from git@personal.github.com/x.git for personal stuff

Wow! I don’t know why I hadn’t thought of that, even though I use aliases all the time for SSH. Seems my brain got stuck on the domain part. ^_^

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by ukyrgf »

kondro wrote: post #109
SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #97

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Obligatory plug for Firefox Containers

Or, you know, having multiple profiles in Chrome (which have existed much longer).

Or, you know, multiple profiles in Firefox which has existed even longer. I use both.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by teakettle42 »

Manuel_D wrote: post #18

This would be a serious breach of privacy if true. But reading the tweets I'm not sure what the policy really is: > During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my texts. They refused to let me delete anything, even "fully personal," even when I said "by fully personal I mean nudes." They said they're in their "permanent evidence locker This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they…

Yeah, this is simply false.

Apple doesn’t expect you to use a personal iCloud account, and is very clear about warning you about sharing /storing personal data on work systems.

I have very little sympathy for someone that used a personal account containing nudes on a work device.

That was a work-inappropriate choice with entirely predictable results.

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