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Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by ramraj07 »

gurchik wrote: post #76
ramraj07 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I’m not saying trust my employer or that I dont, I don’t care that much. Logging into slack on my phone doesn’t give them access to all my life. I don’t have to be a slave to the company but I don’t have to be a slave to paranoia either.

Personally there is a difference between logging into Slack on my phone and logging into email (which requires me to enroll into the MDM). I do the former on my personal cell phone, but I would never do the latter. There are many mistakes the company can make (like wiping my personal phone after resigning from the company) to make me regret that decision. But installing Slack is different, I can shut off the notifica…

Agreed enrolling into MDM shouldn’t be taken lightly. I don’t see that in any modern tech company (at least small ones). For the most part I use gmail and login to the company google account.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by silisili »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

Great advice.

My company last year demanded we have MDM to access email. So now I don't read emails outside of work hours.

I assume there's decent reasons behind such mandates, but net net all it does is alienate many people.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by kondro »

powersurge360 wrote: post #94
kondro wrote: post #54

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Because GitHub makes it hard (i.e. impossible) to manage multiple accounts. No account switching on the website, no easy way to use multiple SSH keys to access multiple accounts when using Git.

You can set up a new host in your ssh config and specify a key different from your main account and it should swap your accounts based on the key. Additionally, you can set a git config to be included if you’re in a particular directory so that you can change your commit details. I’m on a mobile device so excuse the vagueness, but if there’s interest I can provide some resources and go more in depth.

A new host with what hostname? Because git uses github.com for all repos.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by jptech »

emodendroket wrote: post #85
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

> Edit: One more: don’t use corporate WiFi with your personal devices Can't you use a VPN and the guest network and be essentially OK?

I don't ger this either. With TLS/SSL , how is it different than connecting to any public wifi?

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by khazhoux »

pommecore wrote: post #68

Some time ago when I hired on at Apple (I've since moved on to greener pastures) I had a tough time provisioning my corporate MacBook. Every time I tried entering my work email address I got kicked into an unfamiliar auth flow that ended up not working. After I mentioned how much trouble I was having, someone sitting near me in the office told me I needed to use a personal Apple ID to provision the device. I created…

Seconded

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by devnull3 »

It seems this person has/had some major work problems at Apple.

The employees there apparently kept scores (on a white board?) to make her want to quit the job [1]

[1] https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik/status/1427351298920239106

No matter who is in the wrong here, this is some A-grade toxic shit. This is unacceptable even for kids let alone adults.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by testfoobar »

pommecore wrote: post #68

Some time ago when I hired on at Apple (I've since moved on to greener pastures) I had a tough time provisioning my corporate MacBook. Every time I tried entering my work email address I got kicked into an unfamiliar auth flow that ended up not working. After I mentioned how much trouble I was having, someone sitting near me in the office told me I needed to use a personal Apple ID to provision the device. I created…

"I went so far as to carry two iPhones, one personal and the other "corporate," and I only ever used my "corporate" iPhone with Apple employee apps. I never even connected my personal phone to the campus WiFi; I used wireless data for that phone the entire time I was there."

This is the way. Carry two devices.

Separate personal/work devices. Never connect personal to corporate network. Never send messages between personal and work. Never give out personal device # to colleagues.

Assume that everything on your work device is logged and monitored. Don't do vacation research, medical research, social media, Spotify, anything personal at all on your work device. Ever.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by kondro »

MattGaiser wrote: post #56
kondro wrote: post #54

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Because GitHub makes it hard (i.e. impossible) to manage multiple accounts. No account switching on the website, no easy way to use multiple SSH keys to access multiple accounts when using Git.

Shouldn't you mostly be using them on separate computers though? The rare times I need my personal one at work (to view how I solved something before), I just open Incognito.

I'm self-employed and always on-call. Not suggesting this is the right way for anyone else, but trying to unravel a combined life to even multiple accounts on a single computer sounds like a nightmare.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by kondro »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #97
MattGaiser wrote: post #56

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Shouldn't you mostly be using them on separate computers though? The rare times I need my personal one at work (to view how I solved something before), I just open Incognito.

Obligatory plug for Firefox Containers

Or, you know, having multiple profiles in Chrome (which have existed much longer).

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by _drimzy »

version_five wrote: post #50
ipaddr wrote: post #41

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Why are apple employees getting subpoenaed? Is this common at Apple?

It's not clear if it was the employee in particular. It was a work device, so it's possible that devices from people on a team or involved in something were needed for some legal thing.

+1 It must have not been the employee in particular. Big companies get sued all the time, and then all written records on work devices, for products that got sued, becomes evidence.
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