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Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by ipaddr »

_drimzy wrote: post #24
Manuel_D wrote: post #18

This would be a serious breach of privacy if true. But reading the tweets I'm not sure what the policy really is: > During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my texts. They refused to let me delete anything, even "fully personal," even when I said "by fully personal I mean nudes." They said they're in their "permanent evidence locker This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they…

> Do you need to link your personal accounts with family photos and whatnot? Nope. You can create a separate iCloud account just for work. I did that during my time there. I always maintained a separate work phone, and used work icloud account for that. The folks complaining are the ones who just didn't do that, and added 'work data' on their personal account, which ofcourse they will have to hand over if subpoenaed.

Why are apple employees getting subpoenaed? Is this common at Apple?

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by Spooky23 »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

This. +100

I used to think people were paranoid about this stuff until I ran a big email system. Most big companies have a department in compliance or counsel that reads your mail, either in response to a complaint or randomly depending on the industry.

Accused of sexual harassment? Your JDate and Match emails support the idea that you’re lonely. An external entity thinks somebody embezzled money? Your late credit card notice projects that you have money woes.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by tzs »

The same Apple that can't figure out how to let customers merge two accounts [1]?

[1] Why would a customer need to merge two accounts? Because originally Apple accounts were just for iTunes, associated with your email address.

Then they started cloud services like file storage, email, calendars, etc, and those accounts were tied to your Apple provided email address.

Eventually they made it so that iTunes and cloud used the same accounts, but those of us who had both iTunes and cloud before that ended up with two accounts. And since your devices can only be signed into one at a time, if we were not extremely careful we ended up with some of our app and music purchases on one account, and some on the other.

This is an ongoing pain in the ass. It would be much much nicer if Apple provided a way to delete one of the accounts and move all the purchases to the other, but they have not done so despite receiving numerous requests to do so.

Sometimes you get lucky. It turned out that all I had on the Apple addressed account was a couple of "purchases" of free apps plus some paid for storage. It was easy just to repurchase those free apps on my original iTunes account, purchase cloud storage for that and delete the other account from my password manager so I can't ever accidentally log in to it. But many people have a lot of non-free app and music and video purchases on both, and so are stuck keeping them both active.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by smartbit »

amiga1200 wrote: post #4

I’m slowly getting the impression that either there’s been a policy change at Apple in terms of customer privacy, or some other government pressure that’s causing all of these seemingly anti-privacy decisions to be made. I’m considering moving away from the Apple eco-system, any recommendations? I’m equally distrustful of Android (specifically Google). I feel like my only option is to compile and deploy my own versio…

See previous discussion at

Ask HN: What Apple alternatives are you switching to? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28220968

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by pbreit »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

I don't follow ANY of this advice and am unlikely to do so anytime soon.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by bnj »

Johnny555 wrote: post #29
busymom0 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> customer privacy I agree with the point of your comment but this particular post is regarding employees and seems like this has been in place for 3 years at least (tweet mentions it). I started moving away from Apple a few months ago, much before this Apple CSAM debacle. This is a pretty big move for me because I am a developer who makes apps for both iOS and MacOS, so I pretty much need Apple software for work. No…

No longer buying iPhones or Macs. I was planning on upgrading to the Mac Mini with M1 chip later this fall but now I plan on building a hackintosh instead. If you don't trust Apple, why build a Hackintosh and run Apple software?

Not the parent you're replying to but it sounded from the post like it's because they develop apps on apple platforms and need them for work.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by throwaway98797 »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

lol

you havent worked in sales.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by version_five »

ipaddr wrote: post #41
_drimzy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you need to link your personal accounts with family photos and whatnot? Nope. You can create a separate iCloud account just for work. I did that during my time there. I always maintained a separate work phone, and used work icloud account for that. The folks complaining are the ones who just didn't do that, and added 'work data' on their personal account, which ofcourse they will have to hand over if subpoenaed.

Why are apple employees getting subpoenaed? Is this common at Apple?

It's not clear if it was the employee in particular. It was a work device, so it's possible that devices from people on a team or involved in something were needed for some legal thing.
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