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Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by kaliszad » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 12:20 AM UTC

pionar wrote: post #68

twic wrote: post #65

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Who is the audience for these threads? The only time in my life i've taken substantial quantities of notes was when i was a student. When i've had a job, the learning i do isn't the kind where i'm making copious notes. Are there a lot of students on HN? Are there a lot of people doing out-of-hours study? Do people make lots of notes at work? Is this productivity LARP?

ADHD sufferer here, taking notes is ESSENTIAL. I don't have a system though, just a series of OneNote notebooks that I organize when I can get to it.

I would be really glad, if you could try out OrgPad.com and give us some feedback. (Disclaimer: I work for OrgPad if that wasn't obvious.)

We think, OrgPad has a number of strong advantages above OneNote:

- it is generally way simpler and tries to actually help you and not throw sticks under your feet

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- OrgPad enables you to think a lot more visually, this has a nice property that if you use OrgPad honestly, it is as if you looked onto your mind in a mirror

- it will actually develop further and improve constantly

There is of course a lot more. We use OrgPad for everything, from management of the company, software development planing and progress tracking, note taking/ documentation to personal bureaucracy.

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Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by kaliszad » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 12:31 AM UTC

sorokod wrote: post #29

The focus on technical solutions, Roam vs. Obsidian vs... obscures the fact that regardless of the software - maintaining a useful, up-to-date, well cross referenced corpus of knowledge is a lot of effort. The effort must be constant and ongoing, few will have the stamina to keep it going.

Yes, it requires effort - as anything that is maintenance not speaking of development of new stuff/ new insights into existing knowledge etc.

At OrgPad, we find, having a nice visual and flexible way to work with information in a graph that you yourself create the way you like it but that helps you arrange stuff so that nothing overlaps etc. is very approachable and helps with remembering stuff. It is kind of like the pin boards in the criminal TV shows. :-) You can apply this approach to most stuff as seeing everything at once with the right amount of detail can not only help you find criminals but also just get your work done and perhaps even make personal bureaucracy less tedious. It is also nice for vacation photos, which I certainly wouldn't do in Roam and others.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by aaldrick » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

yesenadam wrote: post #90

aaldrick wrote: post #82

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This sounds right up my alley - one question: do you use this books are reference in the future to help cement your learning? I feel like I would also end up never looking in them again just like you mentioned with the physical notebooks.

Hi. Well..for me, it's more like reminding/relearning than cementing! Like am currently into Forth for the third time within a few years. I forgot just about everything. Rereading that chapter was the best refresher course I could imagine. And I'll add the stuff I'm learning now to the chapter. But the answer is different for each book. I guess the ones I look in least are the past year books, as I'm still adding to…

Hi! Thanks for your response. I greatly appreciate the detail. I very much like this way of thinking - "they only increase in value, the longer you don't look into them".

One final question, what is the difference between your 2020 book and the books which detail what you were into that year? Is a year book just a copy and paste of what you were into in a chronological order for that year? Thanks so much!

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by yesenadam » Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 1:57 AM UTC

aaldrick wrote: post #93

yesenadam wrote: post #90

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Hi. Well..for me, it's more like reminding/relearning than cementing! Like am currently into Forth for the third time within a few years. I forgot just about everything. Rereading that chapter was the best refresher course I could imagine. And I'll add the stuff I'm learning now to the chapter. But the answer is different for each book. I guess the ones I look in least are the past year books, as I'm still adding to…

Hi! Thanks for your response. I greatly appreciate the detail. I very much like this way of thinking - "they only increase in value, the longer you don't look into them". One final question, what is the difference between your 2020 book and the books which detail what you were into that year? Is a year book just a copy and paste of what you were into in a chronological order for that year? Thanks so much!

Hmm there's the general "this year" book, and books for particular topics, equally detailed, just some topics grow to a size where they demand their own book! Also they seem topics I keep returning to, not contained within any one year or month.

Hmm looking in my 2020 book, the chapters are January, February etc, plus To do\Done, Books/papers read, talks watched, Subjects/Projects, Writing, Dreams, Quotes, Software.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by aaldrick » Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 10:14 AM UTC

yesenadam wrote: post #94

aaldrick wrote: post #93

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Hi! Thanks for your response. I greatly appreciate the detail. I very much like this way of thinking - "they only increase in value, the longer you don't look into them". One final question, what is the difference between your 2020 book and the books which detail what you were into that year? Is a year book just a copy and paste of what you were into in a chronological order for that year? Thanks so much!

Hmm there's the general "this year" book, and books for particular topics, equally detailed, just some topics grow to a size where they demand their own book! Also they seem topics I keep returning to, not contained within any one year or month. Hmm looking in my 2020 book, the chapters are January, February etc, plus To do\Done , Books/papers read, talks watched , Subjects/Projects , Writing, Dreams, Quotes, Softwar…

Got it, thanks very much! I think I will give this a serious shot with my own modifications of course.