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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by throwaway894345 »

neolog wrote: post #466
zdragnar wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free speech, separation of church and state has nothing to do with it. Not wanting to be associated with rape, child and revenge porn (variations on non-consent) is all it is. User submitted content is so much harder to verify facts about (consent in particular) and as long as the user submitted content is sexual in nature, it is legal plutonium.

A lot of the attacks against amateur porn and sex work are by religious groups masking their actual motive by focusing on consent verification. Verification raises the barrier and makes performers much more vulnerable since their legal identities are attached to their work. https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war...

I’m of the impression that consent is a legitimate problem? Lots of pornography is wrapped up in sex trafficking never mind revenge porn, or so I’ve heard.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by SavantIdiot »

suifbwish wrote: post #576
yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

Once you reach a certain size and payment processors are barking at your content, the answer becomes: “start your own payment processor” an amusing side note is today I learned onlyfans didn’t just host people’s porn videos.

You will discover new Eastern European "friends" who will "discourage" you from becoming an adult-services payment processor. That entire market is cornered, and they don't like to share.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by zapdrive »

taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

Well, maybe they can start working and be productive to the society like the rest of us. Also, the fact that a girl can sustain a life just by taking nudes shows you how much different the both genders actually are. There's no equality. Also why is no one crying about wage gap in porn?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by caslon »

jwond wrote: post #221

It seems a lot of people in this post are opposed to payment processors pressuring OnlyFans to do this. When Google, Apple, Amazon, et al. simultaneously took actions that resulted in the shutdown of Gab it seemed a lot of people supported it. Now they could very well be completely disjoint groups, but I’d be interested if anyone who opposes the payment processors pressuring OnlyFans but supported the actions taken a…

There is a duopoly in payment processing because it's the most regulated industry in the world. Google, Apple and Amazon are in vastly different businesses, rose to where they were based on the free market and are sustained by it, would be there with or without regulation, and will eventually be replaced.

Personally I don't really care about either of these scenarios and a whole lot of the people complaining about this one are doing it for pretty obvious self-interested reasons, but you're being disingenuous by acting like these are the same thing. Visa and Mastercard are a government-enforced duopoly (with a few minor similarly-enforced exceptions). No tech company is as meaningfully.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by mcdevilkiller »

actually_a_dog wrote: post #519
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

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> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

> If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever can operate beyond those constraints, which is kind of a sad state of affairs for free speech, separation of church and state, and policing in general. Welcome to the "free(…

Yeah. But, supposedly, in a free market, if there's demand for it (a payment processor that accepts porn), there would be supply. Someone would come up with a company devoted to just that.

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Post by MichaelGroves »

smt88 wrote: post #341
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site, but let's not kid ourselves about PornHub. It was mostly pirated content with a lot of videos of people being harmed.

> I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site

"IRL", abusive relationships can be hidden in plain site from people who think they know the couple well. How do you stand any chance of knowing there isn't an abusive pimp behind the camera of an onlyfans account? Ultimately you only have intuition and guesswork to go off of, but both are fallible. Even if the platform itself is trusted and does a good job of verifying identities, that doesn't preclude abuse.

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Post by andy_ppp »

perardi wrote: post #581
andy_ppp wrote: post #568

Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…

Well among other things: way to utterly and entirely ignore the LGBT creators on there who are making money but also creating erotic content for their communities.

It is a correct reading that my comment didn’t make assumptions about those creators or communities. That’s because it was about something else, that I think consuming this kind of porn is particularly bad because it is largely lonely low status men obsessing about and giving money to rich powerful women on OnlyFans. I find it interesting to point out there might be an unfavourable power dynamic here in the opposite way to how it usually occurs within our society.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by svachalek »

biztos wrote: post #586
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

It really seems weird to me that with all the countries that allow various forms of sex work, payment processing is still such a bottleneck. As I understand it, independent providers doing 100% legal work in their countries live in terror of their payments being cut off due to the factors mentioned above. Where is the CoinBase of legal erotica?

I wonder if crypto has finally found its "killer app". Pseudo privacy, no charge backs, permissionless.

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