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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by claudiawerner »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #234
claudiawerner wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patreon went one step further - if you post content against Patreon's rules anywhere else, even if you don't link to it, if Patreon finds out, they'll ask you to stop doing it, and threaten to suspend your account if you keep doing it. This is why many people who post fetish-y art (even stuff like mind-control kink) moved from Patreon to SubscribeStar. Even erotic roleplay site F-List moved to SubscribeStar.

Patreon went one step further - if you post content against Patreon's rules anywhere else, even if you don't link to it, if Patreon finds out, they'll ask you to stop doing it, and threaten to suspend your account if you keep doing it. That sounds outrageous. Is there a link to more info about this policy?

The only example I remember was a little less bad, but still pretty bad in my opinion - the artist in question uploaded contra-TOS artwork on his Twitter account, and had a link to his Twitter account from Patreon. However, Patreon's own terms of service state that they look where traffic is coming from to see what kind of things you're funding with the money, and can ban you on that alone:

>Because you are raising funds on Patreon, we may be held accountable for what you do with those funds, so we may also look at what you do with your membership off our platform. As a result when we talk about “On Patreon,” it means the creations you are funding on and through Patreon. When reviewing a page, we look at how creations are shared, where the page is linked to and where the traffic comes from. No matter what happens, we always give creators the opportunity to appeal a decision by contacting us and sending any relevant information they believe was not considered. We may not change our minds, but we will always listen.

From: https://www.patreon.com/en-GB/policy/guidelines

This means that you only need to link to your Patreon, not even link from your Patreon for them to find you objectionabe.

About NSFW creators leaving the platform because of tighter content restrictions on fiction:

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/patreon-hypnosis-porn-ban-sexua...

https://thenextweb.com/news/patreon-continues-to-crack-down-...

Further, Patreon has communicated to artists that regardless of the age of a fictional character, certain art elements common to anime/manga style drawing (even of adults - "big head, big eyes, short height") may be considered as marking the artwork as a child - and even adding adult-like proportions such as large breasts may not be sufficient to evade Patreon's ban: https://twitter.com/Waero_Re/status/1238408555507539968

Another artist in the thread noted that Patreon decided their content was "violent" because their drawings featured people not smiling during orgasm.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by noobermin »

yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

What other brand do they have?

Also, there seriously needs to be a reckoning with the payment processor issue, somehow.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by Wohlf »

alpaca128 wrote: post #62
BitwiseFool wrote: post #13

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I assume they will end up like Tumblr after it went Safe for Work. Still around but nowhere near as popular and a shell of its former self.

Not necessarily. Discord is a pretty popular platform for exclusive access to selected people, e.g. Patreon supporters. As long as OF allows this kind of link it might stay relevant.

Patreon already exists for exclusive SFW content, and with exclusive Discords you can also interact with other fans of the same content. Not sure where OnlyFans would fit in other than "different Patreon".

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by lukeramsden »

K5EiS wrote: post #432
killingtime74 wrote: post #379

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Of course they do. No one paying to see Someone put legos together

https://onlyfans.com/legowhore

Saying anything on the internet these days is a risk, you're almost guaranteed to be wrong somehow.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by zz865 »

Tenoke wrote: post #421
zz865 wrote: post #385

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It also highlights the lack of anonymity with crypto - everyone gets to see what you spend money on.

This is a massive exaggeration. I've spent a fair amount of crypto without trying to hide it, please tell me what on. Maybe the state can find my addresses with a bit more effort than they can find my CC purchases but random people or friends and family not so much unless I want them to.

> random people or friends and family not so much unless I want them to

What I mean is if you ever send F&F money they'll see all your previous purchases too, and if OF is a well known wallet its easy for them to see that detail.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by t-writescode »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #33
sirmoveon wrote: post #29

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I think the initial purpose was similar to Patreon: allowing creators a way to monetize. It just became famous due to the pornographic content.

To be more specific, it was a direct competitor to Patreon, but patreon banned porn and onlyfans didn’t, thus the market differentiation.

Patreon has decidedly 18+ content on it. It even has 18+ interstitial pages to make sure you’re 18+

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Post by marcus_holmes »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #449
devrand wrote: post #403

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My understanding is that this industry has way higher than average chargeback/fraud rates, which is really what discourages payment processors/banks from wanting to support them.

Selling porn site accounts is a popular way to turn stolen credit card details into untraceable cryptocurrencies. That means there is already an userbase for crypto porn.

The first commercial use of any technology is porn ;)

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by jessaustin »

devrand wrote: post #443
jessaustin wrote: post #368

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Eventually this will just drive BTC adoption. Perhaps OF had a reason not to go with this option, but other parties will step up.

While that might help them accept payments, they'll likely then have troubling converting that back to USD and doing normal business banking. While crypto could fix those issues as well, it's just layers and layers of segments that need wide adoption (B2B transactions, payroll, benefits, etc.)

Well, sure, it would have been easier not to get blackballed. We don't live in a just world.

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Post by gpvos »

bcheung wrote: post #245
_jal wrote: post #194

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Remember this next time people start pushing going cashless. Doing so means that a third party is involved in every transaction you make, and that someone else will always have veto power over your commercial transactions.

Crypto will eventually democratize business transactions but it will take some time and it will not be without increased fraud.

With ~90% of it currently being used for speculation or illegal activity, I don't see it getting real traction.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by paxys »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #328
taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…

A huge chunk of the planet is forced into jobs they don't like to provide for themselves and their families. What's so "dignifying" about a job getting humiliated by entitled customers in retail or waitressing for minimum wage or breaking your body doing hard manual labor? Religious morality is the only reason a much more safe, comfortable and lucrative option like OnlyFans is banned.
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