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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by bitwize »

MomoXenosaga wrote: post #281
dweekly wrote: post #126

It sure sounds like this was forced on them by their payment processors, not that this was a voluntary move. https://twitter.com/danprimack/status/1428420774449266691?s=...

This is why America needs to work beyond it's fascination with creditcards. Your bank can't block shit and has to process whatever transaction you want short of the terrorist watchlist.

Since the Obama administration the government has been using threats of increased regulatory scrutiny against banks that do not block transactions dealing with certain undesirable industries including guns, cannabis, and porn -- whether such transactions are legal or not.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by pessimizer »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #328
taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…

> the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society.

You're right, we should tell them to wait until society is fixed.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by throwaway8358 »

With all the focus on "local" now, maybe society just needs to go back to good ol' fashioned red light districts with brothels where Johns can make cash payments to the Madams that credit card companies and Apple/Google Pay can't block. Instead of paying with a credit card to see pixelated computer-screen boobies that are 3000 miles away, maybe just go to a local "gentleman's club" and see actual in-the-flesh nude women or something, ya know?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by gpvos »

make3 wrote: post #201
emodendroket wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably the reputational risk to them from being associated with porn is not worth whatever OnlyFans brings in.

not sure why you're getting downvoted, this is textually what is said

Ignore a few downvotes in the first hour or so, they're likely to be compensated with upvotes if you're saying anything substantial.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by lynx234 »

moonchrome wrote: post #340
perardi wrote: post #207

Wow, you spend years thinking crypto is convoluted nonsense…and then something comes along that impacts a lot of your friends, and you start to change your mind. I have a fair number† of friends and acquaintances who have OnlyFans. Some for side income, some for a substantial portion of their livelihood. And to see that get taken away because the payment processors want them to fall in line…I guess I’m on the crypto…

If crypto was actually a viable alternative they wouldn't be doing this. I'm not against the promises of crypto - but the tech so far has failed to deliver anything but a platform to streamline illegal activity, asset speculation bubbles and a whole bunch of wasted energy/hardware along with reliving the problems people had historically with bank fraud in free banking and the likes (banks printing their own notes wit…

The tech is there but mainstream adoption and understanding is still coming along. It's incredibly easy and cheap to send USDC or DAI to OnlyFans if they accept tokens on a sidechain (like Polygon or Fantom).

You don't have to sign up for an account or provide any personal info, just use your wallet to send certain tokens to an address, then you can use that wallet as a sign-in.

OnlyFans can then use Coinbase or an off-ramp to go from crypto to fiat.

It's a more seamless user experience and solves the payment processing issue.

In my opinion it's a matter of educating the masses to a very different method of paying for services and using services (both on the business and consumer side).

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by neolog »

zdragnar wrote: post #382
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

Free speech, separation of church and state has nothing to do with it. Not wanting to be associated with rape, child and revenge porn (variations on non-consent) is all it is. User submitted content is so much harder to verify facts about (consent in particular) and as long as the user submitted content is sexual in nature, it is legal plutonium.

A lot of the attacks against amateur porn and sex work are by religious groups masking their actual motive by focusing on consent verification. Verification raises the barrier and makes performers much more vulnerable since their legal identities are attached to their work.

https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war...

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by BitwiseFool »

jcun4128 wrote: post #42
BitwiseFool wrote: post #18

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I'm a cryptocurrency advocate, but for the average person transacting with crypto is still insanely intimidating and a pain to set up properly. Maybe paying with stablecoins could work but that is still a lot to ask of your users who are accustomed to paying for things with a credit card. Want to buy something? Open a Coinbase or Gemini account, hook up ACH or wire transfers, wait a week for the deposit to be made, t…

Yeah I'm saying you'd have a service that does that for you, moves the money from credit (OF sub) to crypto back to fiat for the user (OF creator). I also realize about costs too... but like with CBP if you transact a lot of volume the fees go down so you could build it up. Well... I guess ultimately you still need that thing between the credit card and the service eg. stripe... idk if the porn thing is like a blanke…

I think the most important thing would be wrapping the destination address around an easy to view label. Maybe only allow transactions to trusted/verified addresses for partner companies and services.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by skinnymuch »

jjulius wrote: post #375
skinnymuch wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bella Thorne was only there for explicit stuff. Not sure about the other celebs.

Are you sure? Another user posted this elsewhere in this thread, a few posts below yours: >Not quite accurate. Bella Thorne joined Onlyfans and promised "no clothes naked" content in exchange for her $200 subscription fee. She made millions of dollars but then only sent clothed and obscured pictures to her subscribers. After thousands of people demanded refunds, Onlyfans changed their policies to heavily limit how mu…

Yeah. She was there because of “no clothes naked” which is explicit. She ended up being deceitful and hurting others. Still means she was there because of explicit stuff. in other words, there’s a reason she made millions on onlyfans in no time and not with a brand new Payreon.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by paxys »

Johnny555 wrote: post #445
yibg wrote: post #254

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Adult content usually has a high charge back rate. “What? How did this get here? My card must’ve been stolen” when the spouse sees the statement.

Don't chargebacks go to the merchant anyway? Why would the payment processor care?

They still have to deal with it. For example, a previous company I worked at valued every customer service call at ~$13. If it was a <$10 problem we would simply offer to refund the customer in full online, no questions asked.
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