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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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mounting pressure from banking partners and payment providers HN is often sceptical about use cases for crypto beyond speculation. This looks like one.

What is stopping MasterCard and Visa from banning Coinbase and others if this happens

If bitcoin didnt get banned over drugs and murder-for-hire schemes, i cant imagine porn will be the tipping point.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Why can PornHub successfully sell a premium porn service but OnlyFans cannot? Is it just the size of the company?

pornhub is having this issue exactly. They got PNG'd by all the payment processors. They only have crypto payment options now. My bet is pornhub is doing a lot worse now than they were before. https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/pornhub-crypto-news

Their FAQ is still showing that they offer credit card payments via Probiller, but clicking onwards does indeed show them temporarily not accepting credit card payments, defaulting to a SEPA transfer instead.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Why should there be? It seems absurd to MANDATE anyone participate in the sex trade. There are payment processors who specialize in adult content.

At the mercy of Visa and MasterCard, I would guess. Doesn't OnlyFans work with CCBill, who exclusively work with adult content providers? More info is needed to conclude, but it wouldn't surprise me if their upstream providers made demands.

I highly doubt they are going through CCBill. They are too expensive at volume. Since they are only charging models 20% I suspect they tried to pretend to not be adult, which they probably weren't in the beginning. But not it is almost all adult and CC processors know that and want their higher cut.

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It sure sounds like this was forced on them by their payment processors, not that this was a voluntary move. https://twitter.com/danprimack/status/1428420774449266691?s=...

Why should payment processors force them to. They will make less money

Adult content usually has a high charge back rate. “What? How did this get here? My card must’ve been stolen” when the spouse sees the statement.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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It's not like they have a choice. Their business was only ever viable at the behest of their payment provider. The reason no one has made an OnlyFans before, and the reason why people have tried and failed, entirely comes down to this.

Oh god I can’t believe I’m going to say this. Crypto/Bitcoin, in keeping with the relationship the Internet and adult content have. Congrats Coinbase, Venmo, and others enabling censorship resistant crypto payments on your revenue bump.

But most coins are public ledger. And the "know your customer" exchanges are not allowing privacy protecting coins.

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It seems a lot of people in this post are opposed to payment processors pressuring OnlyFans to do this. When Google, Apple, Amazon, et al. simultaneously took actions that resulted in the shutdown of Gab it seemed a lot of people supported it. Now they could very well be completely disjoint groups, but I’d be interested if anyone who opposes the payment processors pressuring OnlyFans but supported the actions taken a…

Are you surprised folk agree with things that fit their morals and disagree with ones that don't? Gab was being used to promote hate, violence, and misinformation. Onlyfans is not those things.

This feels akin to saying something like, "Oh, you were onboard when the government criminalized murder, how do you feel now that they're criminalizing weed?!"

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Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

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Probably the reputational risk to them from being associated with porn is not worth whatever OnlyFans brings in.

Payment processors and financial institutions like to use the (IMO mostly political) cover of "AML regulations" to decline service to sex workers and sex worker-adjacent businesses. Prior to the internet and OnlyFans there was at least a tenuous connection: sex work was a cash business and all cash businesses are at "higher" risk for money laundering. Pizza shops, nail salons, car washes, etc. Of course the pizza sho…

You had (still have?) the same issue with marijuana businesses. Not easy to open a bank account for a marijuana business.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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I remember PH having the same issue. Do payment processors take on liability for facilitating sexual content that is illegal in some way? Is it a PR thing? Is mastercard owned by the Holy See? What's the deal?

Most likely it's about FOSTA-SESTA in the United States which exempts you from Section 230.
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