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the 'visual derivative' of photos on your device are sent to apple
That is the CSAM iCloud photo stuff; iMessage has nothing to do with that.
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A bit like on-device machine learning features, like object detection in images and video, language analysis, and sound classification?
Yup. Apple made a recognition model around sexually explicit images and locally runs opted-in child accounts' images against it: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/vision/training_a_...
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iCloud != iMessage
And this feature has nothing to do with iMessage. Y'all are starting to make me more sympathetic to Apple. Their biggest misstep was making these announcements simultaneously without foreseeing how many people would (willingly or otherwise) conflate them.
Im not sure if im missing something here, but from what I understand, what Apple is proposing is an enormous privacy boon that seems to be completely misunderstood. All cloud providers are required to, and do, make these scans. The proposal provides a way for them to comply with that requirement, but at the same time, allows them to completely lock themselves out of being able to decrypt your data in the cloud, excep…
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That is the CSAM iCloud photo stuff; iMessage has nothing to do with that.
The subheadline- >More than 90 policy and rights groups ask company to abandon plans for scanning phones of adults for images of child sex abuse.
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Key exchange would be easy in real life, just bump phones when you meet someone. It's only difficult on IRC.
> Key exchange would be easy in real life We are over a year into a pandemic which involved wide-scale lockdowns. Physical key exchange is a nonstarter for broad adoption.
I think the emphasis is on the -ed in involved. That's a temporary condition which is already resolving in much of the world. You may also be overestimating lockdown compliance among average people.
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Key exchange would be easy in real life, just bump phones when you meet someone. It's only difficult on IRC.
Yes and no. It's not 'hard' it's just friction that's not present at baseline (when iMessage was designed, and for the most part still today). Sometimes you send messages to someone who you haven't ever met in person, or you met but didn't think to exchange keys at the time. And when Dave drops his phone in the lake and buys a new one, he would have to sheepishly re-meetup with everyone he interacts with. If iMessage…
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The more fear and confusion the EFF can spread, the more donations they get.
I agree, sadly. This prompted me to unsubscribe from them. In some ways it reminds me of the ACLU. Similar fixation on donations above all else, to the point of dark patterns. I still haven't managed to fully extricate myself from their pleas.
"Regardless of popular sanction, war is mass murder. Conscription is slavery, and taxation is robbery. The libertarian in short, is almost completely the child in the fable, pointing out insistently that the emperor has no clothes. Throughout the ages, the emperor has had a series of psuedo-clothes provided for him by the nation's intellectual caste. In past centuries, the intellectuals informed the public that the state or it's rulers were divine. Or at least, clothed in divine authority and therefore what might look to the naive and untutored eye as despotism, mass murder, and theft on a grand scale, was only the divine working it's benign and mysterious ways in the body politic. —Murray Rothbard, For a New Liberty"
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Key exchange would be easy in real life, just bump phones when you meet someone. It's only difficult on IRC.
> Key exchange would be easy in real life We are over a year into a pandemic which involved wide-scale lockdowns. Physical key exchange is a nonstarter for broad adoption.