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The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by bikingbismuth »

twic wrote: post #65
bodge5000 wrote: post #21

Time for the daily/weekly/monthly note taking and productivity thread! On a serious note, I actually like these threads. Earlier in the year I decided to look into better note taking and task management, and it became an entire month of me gradually becoming more and more stressed about it. HN was actually a great source for this, mostly because a lot of the people on here seem a bit less "into it" than dedicated sou…

Who is the audience for these threads? The only time in my life i've taken substantial quantities of notes was when i was a student. When i've had a job, the learning i do isn't the kind where i'm making copious notes. Are there a lot of students on HN? Are there a lot of people doing out-of-hours study? Do people make lots of notes at work? Is this productivity LARP?

I had this realization after my second attempt at implementing Zettelkasten. Most of my job is managing people. I take notes and to-dos, but nothing on the scale that ZK facilitates. Even when I do IC work, I rarely take in depth structured notes.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by tharne »

andi999 wrote: post #24
parkersweb wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. In fact I have a book that can teach you to be more Bob-like in just 7 simple steps ;-)

Too many steps. What about 3 steps?

I see a business opportunity here. Although I might undercut you and write a version that only requires 2 steps :)

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by bodge5000 »

twic wrote: post #65
bodge5000 wrote: post #21

Time for the daily/weekly/monthly note taking and productivity thread! On a serious note, I actually like these threads. Earlier in the year I decided to look into better note taking and task management, and it became an entire month of me gradually becoming more and more stressed about it. HN was actually a great source for this, mostly because a lot of the people on here seem a bit less "into it" than dedicated sou…

Who is the audience for these threads? The only time in my life i've taken substantial quantities of notes was when i was a student. When i've had a job, the learning i do isn't the kind where i'm making copious notes. Are there a lot of students on HN? Are there a lot of people doing out-of-hours study? Do people make lots of notes at work? Is this productivity LARP?

Can only speak for myself of course, but I'm not a student, nor are my notes for work (I do take notes at work, but they really dont need anything resembling a system at all).

These are more so notes for personal projects, ideas I have, things I need to do/todo lists, that kind of thing.

The basic idea is to try not to hold everything in your head, because it limits your ability to think clearly if your stressing about not forgetting stuff. I don't know how true that is, but I can say that for me I'm less stressed about something if I know I have it written down somewhere, even if I never come back to it. Its almost like I make it future-me's problem, rather than something I need to deal with now.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by agos »

sorokod wrote: post #29

The focus on technical solutions, Roam vs. Obsidian vs... obscures the fact that regardless of the software - maintaining a useful, up-to-date, well cross referenced corpus of knowledge is a lot of effort. The effort must be constant and ongoing, few will have the stamina to keep it going.

this is uncomfortable but true. I see these perfectly organised Notion setups with all the bells and whistles and then I realise that it's about the same work as tending to a medium sized garden

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by [deleted] »

amimetic wrote: post #70
bodge5000 wrote: post #21

Time for the daily/weekly/monthly note taking and productivity thread! On a serious note, I actually like these threads. Earlier in the year I decided to look into better note taking and task management, and it became an entire month of me gradually becoming more and more stressed about it. HN was actually a great source for this, mostly because a lot of the people on here seem a bit less "into it" than dedicated sou…

This "Dev builds perfect note-taking system which only stores info about building note-taking systems": https://www.theolognion.com/dev-builds-perfect-note-taking-s... is well timed

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Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by bodge5000 »

amimetic wrote: post #70
bodge5000 wrote: post #21

Time for the daily/weekly/monthly note taking and productivity thread! On a serious note, I actually like these threads. Earlier in the year I decided to look into better note taking and task management, and it became an entire month of me gradually becoming more and more stressed about it. HN was actually a great source for this, mostly because a lot of the people on here seem a bit less "into it" than dedicated sou…

This "Dev builds perfect note-taking system which only stores info about building note-taking systems": https://www.theolognion.com/dev-builds-perfect-note-taking-s... is well timed

Also somewhat relevant

https://xkcd.com/874/

Edit: Apparently not relevant (I still think it is), or someone spends their day doing just this and isn't happy that its being pointed out. Either way, they're not happy

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by disabled »

dSebastien wrote: post #58
disabled wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is some obscenely expensive program for that (I have tried to search for traces of it online). I should do an advanced search again, using key words from the YouTube video below. The course is here: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/ Anyways, there is this guy who is really good at hacking life who describes it and took the course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3dA2GcAh8 Anyways, his channel is interesti…

There's a nice summary of BASB here: https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lEwGSa8=/

Thanks. The board is extremely helpful in finding stuff. I really appreciate it.

I did a search on Bookshare (which I have access to due to having a print-related disability).

So far, there is a lot of common words with "Understanding Information Retrieval Systems" by Marcia Bates

You can download it here: http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=40869A904ABC59F242AA50E8...

But, I don't think that this is what is being copied. But, it could be.

I would not be surprised if mosaic plagiarism is going on, where there is copying going on from a different book for each section. We shall see. I will keep searching.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by dsabanin »

Anyone looking for a good note taking solution, similar to Roam / Obsidian / Notion, but with a much better native macOS experience needs to check out https://www.craft.do/.

It's incredibly well made and is being developed at a crazy pace. A real pleasure to use and they have Mac, iPad, iOS and web version with real-time collaboration.

Edit: I forgot to mention the calendar sync! Really neat way to attach a note to calendar days or events. Especially nice when used with recurring events, as it keeps the note associated with them throughout their lifetime.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by caser »

If anyone is interested, I'm currently starting a weekly ZK meetup on Zoom w/ a few founder friends who want to dive into the method.

Format is:

* 15 mins - check in on your workflow * 30 mins - work on your ZK (write notes, refactor, etc.) * 15 mins - set ZK goals for upcoming week and discuss tactics

If you're interested in joining, drop me a quick note to the email in my profile with a bit about yourself and experience in the method!

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by [deleted] »

disabled wrote: post #77
dSebastien wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a nice summary of BASB here: https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lEwGSa8=/

Thanks. The board is extremely helpful in finding stuff. I really appreciate it. I did a search on Bookshare (which I have access to due to having a print-related disability). So far, there is a lot of common words with "Understanding Information Retrieval Systems" by Marcia Bates You can download it here: http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=40869A904ABC59F242AA50E8... But, I don't think that this is what is being co…

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