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The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by gennarro »

lkois wrote: post #37
bodge5000 wrote: post #21

Time for the daily/weekly/monthly note taking and productivity thread! On a serious note, I actually like these threads. Earlier in the year I decided to look into better note taking and task management, and it became an entire month of me gradually becoming more and more stressed about it. HN was actually a great source for this, mostly because a lot of the people on here seem a bit less "into it" than dedicated sou…

I've found the perfect notebooks for me are A5 spiral bound dot grids. Fairly compact size, unintrusive binding. The dot grid forces less structure than lined, but isn't the wild west of blank. A few months ago I also looked into a bunch of note taking methods, even bought a similar A5, spiral bound, pre-formatted organizer and thought it'd be perfect for organizing my days. It remains unused except for a couple of l…

I recently experimented a bunch a ended up simply using a set of composition notebooks[0]. These are cheap, classic, and they prevent pages being torn out (which I was prematurely doing when I thought I was done with a thread).

[0] https://unsharpen.com/composition-notebook/

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by rubslopes »

nojito wrote: post #50
disabled wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is some obscenely expensive program for that (I have tried to search for traces of it online). I should do an advanced search again, using key words from the YouTube video below. The course is here: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/ Anyways, there is this guy who is really good at hacking life who describes it and took the course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3dA2GcAh8 Anyways, his channel is interesti…

The real productivity experts are the ones who make their revenue optimizing their actual day job and not hocking productivity advice online for views. The best productivity tool is interviewing successful people.

Unless hocking productivity advice online makes you good money. Check Ali Abdaal channel on Youtube.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by Tomte »

lkois wrote: post #37
bodge5000 wrote: post #21

Time for the daily/weekly/monthly note taking and productivity thread! On a serious note, I actually like these threads. Earlier in the year I decided to look into better note taking and task management, and it became an entire month of me gradually becoming more and more stressed about it. HN was actually a great source for this, mostly because a lot of the people on here seem a bit less "into it" than dedicated sou…

I've found the perfect notebooks for me are A5 spiral bound dot grids. Fairly compact size, unintrusive binding. The dot grid forces less structure than lined, but isn't the wild west of blank. A few months ago I also looked into a bunch of note taking methods, even bought a similar A5, spiral bound, pre-formatted organizer and thought it'd be perfect for organizing my days. It remains unused except for a couple of l…

Currently I'm using blank A7 index cards, with a fold-back clip. A bit like the Hipster PDA.

I'm not sure I'll stay with that, but so far it looks good. I like the thick paper, the wide availability and the low price. I can reorder stuff, I can take single index cards out, and I don't regret throwing cards away.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by dSebastien »

dang wrote: post #10

Past related threads: Org-roam-UI – graphical front end for exploring your org-roam Zettelkasten - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28025491 - Aug 2021 (44 comments) My Second Brain – Zettelkasten - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25802277 - Jan 2021 (103 comments) Introduction to the Zettelkasten Method - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24916536 - Oct 2020 (73 comments) Luhmann's Original Zettelkasten…

Awesome, thanks for sharing the list ;-)

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by slightwinder »

kkoncevicius wrote: post #45

I don't get these methods. So it's a note taking system with hyperlinks between them. OK. So what if we made it digital - then it would be like HTML, right? Now, since more notes is better - what if we also let other people write notes and add them into the same library. Oh look, we just invented the world wide web. What am I missing here?

Don't you mean WikiWikiWeb? Because World Wide Web is a bit more than a linked library of notes. Especially today when we have youtube, social networks and webapps.

But what you are missing is the cargo-cult of the youth which strife for a guide to imprison their thoughts. This method is really nothing new, not even innovativ. It originates from the same ideas which created the html and wikis later. But the last hype around hypertext was 20 years ago when wikis were new and hyped, and that didn't last long for technical reasons.

And now we have a new generation who rethinks the same methods again and create new software from them, which can finally fullfill the wishes which where 20 years not possible because of limitations in hard- and software. This is good in it's own, but the hype and ignorance is really funny in it's own. Especially if you are german and know the background better than those people who throw around words which they barly understand correctly, nor know it's history.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by dredmorbius »

dang wrote: post #10

Past related threads: Org-roam-UI – graphical front end for exploring your org-roam Zettelkasten - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28025491 - Aug 2021 (44 comments) My Second Brain – Zettelkasten - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25802277 - Jan 2021 (103 comments) Introduction to the Zettelkasten Method - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24916536 - Oct 2020 (73 comments) Luhmann's Original Zettelkasten…

Maybe the "Lists" page needs a Zettlekasten entry ;-)

https://news.ycombinator.com/lists

Hrm .... Actually, a "perennials" listing might have some value. I'm not entirely sure how to execute that, but listing keywords / topics / posts that occur with 1) some frequency and 2) high levels of engagement, limited to say, the top 30--100 entries, might be of use.

There's the past related threads "past related threads" search:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by binnyva »

WA wrote: post #9

The verbosity around Zettelkasten baffles me. It is a simple system, but most posts explaining it are like 5,000 words long.

So true! This has bugged me enough to create a introduction to Zettelkasten myself - just one page - https://binnyva.com/zettelkasten/ (wanted to keep it under 500 - but it went to 700 words).

Too many my friends are getting the idea Zettelkasten is complicated. When anyone express interest, I make it a point to tell them its a very simple concept. The complication is more in creating the behavior of taking notes rather than in using the system.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by dSebastien »

disabled wrote: post #6
CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I tried hard to like this, i still have my “second brain” collection in onenote (which worked surprisingly well across linux, Windows & mac) but i don’t add to it anymore. However PARA has just proven more ergonomic and far less time consuming for me. https://fortelabs.co/blog/para/ 1. I don’t waste time trying to eek out atomic thoughts, PARA is a more pragmatic idea - if some bit of knowledge proves useful it will…

There is some obscenely expensive program for that (I have tried to search for traces of it online). I should do an advanced search again, using key words from the YouTube video below. The course is here: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/ Anyways, there is this guy who is really good at hacking life who describes it and took the course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3dA2GcAh8 Anyways, his channel is interesti…

There's a nice summary of BASB here: https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lEwGSa8=/

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by martin-adams »

If anyone wants a visual breakdown of the Zettelkasten method, I have created two popular videos on YouTube

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKspwjXu18 (overview)

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziE6UExsOrs (step by step with examples)

Sorry for the shameless plug, but reading the comments on here I see these videos might be able to help make it more tangible.

Re: The Zettelkasten Method (2019)

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Post by mongol »

kkoncevicius wrote: post #45

I don't get these methods. So it's a note taking system with hyperlinks between them. OK. So what if we made it digital - then it would be like HTML, right? Now, since more notes is better - what if we also let other people write notes and add them into the same library. Oh look, we just invented the world wide web. What am I missing here?

Not sure you are missing anything. It sounds like a curated and personal miniweb.
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