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Primer has got to be the most baffling movie ever made, impossible to keep track of the timelines! Still an awesome movie!
If you like Primer, I highly recommend Shane Carruth's other movie, Upstream Color. Very different from Primer, but similar in that both movies let viewers figure things out for themselves.
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Well, it is one of the most highly regarded series in history by critics, so some people thought the explanations were sufficient at least. Abrams and the writers were planning from the outset to do that many seasons and wrote a story bible outlining all the lore and mythology referenced throughout the writing. Having story arcs over the course of years was intentional and a novel idea at the time when most TV series…
Why do you think it's highly regarded by critics? Final season's got a relatively low rating on rotten tomatoes. It's referenced as a joke series in my circles, if you want to refer to something pointlessly convoluted with no pay-off. Personally, I stopped at the beginning of season 3 when I realized the writers didn't have a clue where to go with the plot.
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You must be one of those art snobs that liked Last Year at Marienbad!
Never seen it, but always wanted to! I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I do want to point out that there definitely ARE a lot of people who immediately ascribe snobbery to folks who enjoy complex film, or art that requires thought, or wine above two-buck-chuck, or beer other than Miller Lite, or whatever. It's a pretty silly thing to do (and one that I'm pretty sure you're doing only in jest, let me…
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The GP is just making assertions about cultural anthropology, with basically zero evidence or argument supporting their assertions. I wouldnt bother trying to argue with them, directly... I would not expect them to have any real expertise on the subject, so I expect you'll just get more of the same quality.
The quote about "the difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense" has been around in some form for around two centuries in western culture. References: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/07/15/truth-stranger/ https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/RealityIsUnrea... The quote from Lynch makes it sound as though the obvious way to get people to accept an implausible story didn't occu…
"Based on a true story" is not what makes a film plausible to us... We instinctively engage in a willing suspension of disbelief when we're prompted by literature, even when we directly know that the story is false.
Fargo includes that text because the film is an homage to the hardboiled crime fiction genre, which frequently featured that style of blurb on book covers as a marketing tool. But people consume books & films, near universally where we have the means to do so, with or without claims that the stories within are factual.
You've misunderstood what Nicola Morgan is talking about, in that quote. In context, "believable" means that the author's job is to reduce obstacles that get in the way of our willing suspension of disbelief... Empathy, context, proportionality, etc.
See my other comments, re: the David Lynch quote. His meaning needs to be taken in context of some film theory.
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That's great insight about Lynch. I was totally puzzled by Mulholland Drive, then I read an explanation in a IMDB review, watch it again, and I was amazed that everything made sense. It was encrypted and somebody gave me the keys. That's really an artistic experience.
Great artists are often misunderstood, many who are misunderstood are not great artists - The Sphinx :-)
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This is a deeply predictable (and pedestrian) take, and I 100% expected to see it here (as I expect to see it in any technical forum). Highly technical people -- developers, engineers, etc -- are much more likely (at least in my experience) to react negatively to nonlinear storytelling. Further, the reaction is almost never "wow, not for me" but instead "THIS IS STUPID". It's essentially the equivalent of walking thr…
Programmers are generally unhappy with fuzziness or else they wouldn't be good programmers.
It's a matter of setting up expectations and balancing that with good story telling. Ambiguity, elision, out-of-order story telling, etc. are all part of art but it's a delicate balance. There's a contract that artists set up with the audience that will allow them to use these techniques. Primer is one of those where I'm OK with my confusion because the story was interesting without all the answers, and it was setup…
I was amazed and astonished when I first saw 'The Big Sleep', early in my college career. I'd never seen a movie I had a hard time following before, and I was captivated. There's an old Steve Yegge post where he described presenting for Jeff Bezos. I'm paraphrasing, but Yegge said something like after writing the presentation (no slides), delete every fifth paragraph to keep Bezos intrigued enough to pay attention. I…
I remember I had to watch "The Long Goodbye" with Elliot Gould three times to figure out exactly what was going on [0]. A detective job in itself. A good movie nonetheless. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Long_Goodbye_(film)#A...
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Well, it is one of the most highly regarded series in history by critics, so some people thought the explanations were sufficient at least. Abrams and the writers were planning from the outset to do that many seasons and wrote a story bible outlining all the lore and mythology referenced throughout the writing. Having story arcs over the course of years was intentional and a novel idea at the time when most TV series…
Why do you think it's highly regarded by critics? Final season's got a relatively low rating on rotten tomatoes. It's referenced as a joke series in my circles, if you want to refer to something pointlessly convoluted with no pay-off. Personally, I stopped at the beginning of season 3 when I realized the writers didn't have a clue where to go with the plot.