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Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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Re: Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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There business model has always been a threat to user privacy and press freedom, many people were just okay with it cause Apple told them otherwise. Open source is the only model where you can verify though, and so Apple was about blind trust and never about privacy.

Re: Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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Of course. Politicians and officials hate whistleblowers far more than pedophiles, and it's obvious this mechanism will be used to find future Chelsea Mannings and Reality Winners with better opsec to make examples out of them.

Any population that allows themselves to be ruled by tyrants, will be, as we're seeing with the West slowly morphing into the USSR.

Re: Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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This article is full of inaccuracies.

a) People have extracted a pre-release version from an older iOS phone. It is not the one that will be released and not the same one Apple uses server-side to verify the process.

b) Adversaries can not reasonably break this process by flooding it with bad data across a range of compromised phones. The client side version is there to prevent this as is the fact it would require jailbroken devices with iCloud logins.

c) If you can't trust Apple not to include non-CSAM hashes in the database then how can you trust them not to compromise the operating system itself ? It's illogical. Apple verifies hashes against two sources and two manual checks are required thus needing multiple failure points in the process.

Re: Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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There business model has always been a threat to user privacy and press freedom, many people were just okay with it cause Apple told them otherwise. Open source is the only model where you can verify though, and so Apple was about blind trust and never about privacy.

Why is this being downvoted? Depressing to see that open source software is not respected here.

Re: Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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This article is full of inaccuracies. a) People have extracted a pre-release version from an older iOS phone. It is not the one that will be released and not the same one Apple uses server-side to verify the process. b) Adversaries can not reasonably break this process by flooding it with bad data across a range of compromised phones. The client side version is there to prevent this as is the fact it would require ja…

For b), I can't see how creating spurious icloud accounts and spoofing it will be hard at it's face. I have made dozens of icloud accounts personally for testing in the past. They may take steps to address this attack vector, it's not an unsolvable problem but it isn't solved by requiring a device or icloud account as far as I can tell.

For c), the problem isn't just trusting Apple, for whom the hashes are somewhat opaque, my understanding is that they are provided by a governmentally regulated third party.

Re: Apple’s device surveillance plan is a threat to user privacy – and press freedom

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There is an easy way to cast your vote for saying yes to Privacy. Turn off auto-updates and don't update to iOS 15. Spread the word.

Presumably, there will be a parallel track to stay on iOS 14 with security updates, at least for some time.
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