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Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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Your best bet is probably to order cheap IR or color industrial cameras and use stereo block matching. It's implemented in OpenCV and works okay-ish. For example, Basler dart USB3 cameras can be synchronized through the IO expension port. That said, maybe it's time for someone to produce a good replacement. In my opinion, the RealSense was always quite pricey when compared with what it could do, especially now that w…

There is no way this is a replacement for the RealSense depth cameras. These are USB, bus powered, factory calibrated, cameras doing the block matching in an ASIC. Often with an IR projector to help the matching. This like saying, oh well, I can’t find a GPU, so I’ll just compile Mesa for the CPU and my product will be fine.

Put an NVIDIA Jetson Nano in between and you also have hardware matching.

IR projector is $19: https://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ams/AQAA-20?qs=DRkmTr7...

Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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The Kinect Azure outperforms the RealSense devices. There are also devices based on the Infineon lidar, such as the pieye Nimbus 3D camera.

I've worked with these (Azure Kinect), and they are quite nice, but they are much bigger and heavier and require a lot more power.

Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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Take a look at the Stereolabs Zed cameras.

My company uses ZEDs now, and we are planning to use their new models which are weatherproof, and they currently seem to be the only inexpensive option for outdoor sensing that works out of box. And we don't like them: need your own GPU (at least they support Jetson & co.), not enough SW flexibility, USB-only connection limits the cable length. Longer-term, we plan to use our own software with either a pair of conven…

You can make extra-long USB connections with USB-over-fibre products like [1] (if you've got the money)

[1] https://www.amazon.co.uk/FIBBR-Cable-Female-Active-Extension...

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The Kinect Azure outperforms the RealSense devices. There are also devices based on the Infineon lidar, such as the pieye Nimbus 3D camera.

Does the Kinect 2 still outperform the Azure Kinect at body tracking?

https://github.com/microsoft/Azure-Kinect-Sensor-SDK/issues/...

Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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Incoming hearsay, but I've heard conflicting things from RealSense integrators on what Intel is actually doing with this product over the longer term. Someone mentioned that ongoing R&D is being shuttered, but the depth camera product would still be available for purchase for a while. It would be nice to get some more clarity on what's actually happening.

This kind of makes sense as bigger customers would have to have some sort of availability contract. I guess we just have to wait for statements. Realsense cameras that are not being developed, but promised to be available for purchase for 5-10 years might still be better than anything else out there, or at least to bridge us through the chipageddon gap. Does Realsense see the threat of 3D image sensors/solid state/flash LiDARs taking over and are bailing out early? I guess if this was the case why not just keep the L515 LiDAR?

Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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I have been using Intel‘s D-435i for 6D object Pose estimation and i have to say i was not really happy with the quality of the retrieved depth-frames. The Depth images are very noisy, flat surfaces appear heavily wavy thus making it difficult to apply it for tasks that demand a relatively exact 3D representation of the surrounding Space, which is a problem that has been mentioned in a few issues by several other clients. Just Google ghost noise or wavyy Noise D-435i.

Moreover the AI implementier is actually Not really AI, it‘s just a bunch of common filters for depth-noise reduction such as a Median filter, just look up the filters. And lastly the depth-measurement becomes more unexact the further the point is away, therefore making it necessary to apply a depth-correction, in my case a correction polynom of 2nd Order.

All in all i have to say i‘d not use it again, especially not in industrial contexts. The Kinectv2 delivers a much more stable and reliable depth-image, Even though the realsense programming Interface is mostly nice to work with.

Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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I have been using Intel‘s D-435i for 6D object Pose estimation and i have to say i was not really happy with the quality of the retrieved depth-frames. The Depth images are very noisy, flat surfaces appear heavily wavy thus making it difficult to apply it for tasks that demand a relatively exact 3D representation of the surrounding Space, which is a problem that has been mentioned in a few issues by several other cli…

The L515 is AFAIK based on scanning MEMS rather than structured light on the 435 and together with its integrated “normal” camera should give better results (did for us).

Re: Best RealSense replacements?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way this is a replacement for the RealSense depth cameras. These are USB, bus powered, factory calibrated, cameras doing the block matching in an ASIC. Often with an IR projector to help the matching. This like saying, oh well, I can’t find a GPU, so I’ll just compile Mesa for the CPU and my product will be fine.

Put an NVIDIA Jetson Nano in between and you also have hardware matching. IR projector is $19: https://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ams/AQAA-20?qs=DRkmTr7...

This seems a little bit like claiming that while you can't deliver an aircraft carrier right now, you do have several canoes available and since they both float it's basically the same thing.
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