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T-Mobile: Breach Exposed SSN/DOB of 40M+ People

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Re: T-Mobile: Breach Exposed SSN/DOB of 40M+ People

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Post by dhosek »

swiley wrote: post #113
minikites wrote: post #53

>Can we please have this in the US? No, because a significant amount of people in the USA think any kind of federal identification system is the "mark of the beast" from the biblical book of Revelation.

God dammit it has nothing to do with religion. You're as ignorant as the people you mock.

There are plenty of people who use religion to decry this sort of thing. From the first page of results on a google search for "federal id mark of the beast":

https://www.christianpost.com/news/the-national-biometric-id...

https://www.fisherphillips.com/news-insights/don-t-give-your...

http://archive.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2007/03/...

I'm a Christian and I find most of those arguing that it's the mark of the beast (or the road there) to be disingenuous at it's root (there's an awful lot of anti-Christian stuff being flogged in the name of Christianity), but to claim that this isn't being done in the name of religion is to miss what's happening out there. Turn your car radio to the far left of the dial and listen to some Christian talk radio some time—there's a lot of craziness being put out into the world in the name of religion.

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Post by adzm »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #131
iknowstuff wrote: post #36

The EU has a federated public key cryptography based identity system. The member states recognize identities issued by other member states, but there is no central system. In any case, the private key is stored on a plastic ID, which acts as a smart card and can be hooked up to a smartphone/PC for identity verification and document signing online. The key is only released with a PIN, and the databases online only sto…

It is illegal for the US government to create a mandatory national identity system or coerce the States into creating one. The limits of this have been pretty thoroughly tested in the US Supreme Court. Every time things like this come up, everyone asks why don't we just thing that looks like a national identity system to fix the issue, as if that never occurred to anyone in Congress. This is why: it violates the Cons…

Things like the Real ID Act seem to be as close as we can get without constitutional changes. Something like the above could potentially be implemented like that, but still would not be as widespread as an SSN.

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Post by jrootabega »

harikb wrote: post #66
coldcode wrote: post #6

As usual they don't say how this was accomplished. They call it "sophisticated" but it probably was just stupid or lazy, which is very common in most corporate hacks. Big companies don't really care much about security since it costs money and rarely causes much trouble to your stock price and exec compensation. The people who suffer are those whose data is compromised and have no idea it happened.

Someone did put the blame on COVID! Not sure if it is Tmobile or Reuters From a Reuters article on same news https://www.reuters.com/technology/hackers-steal-some-person... > T-Mobile’s data breach is the latest high-profile cyberattacks as digital thieves take advantage of security weakened by work-from-home policies due the COVID-19 pandemic

Oh boy, somebody's gonna lobby for all banks and telcos to be legally barred from remote work.

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Post by oasisbob »

tristor wrote: post #105
rank0 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just nonsense. Where are you coming up with this theory? Everyone has an ssn already wouldn’t that qualify for the mark?

As someone from the Midwest, I can absolutely say that resistance to the RealID Act was entirely based in this sort of flawed religious logic. I heard it from some of my own family members who are politically influential in their community.

Perhaps in the Midwest, but here on the west coast immigration policy and resistance to Bush-era security theater also played a part.

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Post by waylandsmithers »

rank0 wrote: post #81
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #73

No, the US has far more religious fundamentalists than the EU. They believe that such a system is tantamount to taking the Mark of the Beast, quoting Revelation 13:16-17: > And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has…

This is just nonsense. Where are you coming up with this theory? Everyone has an ssn already wouldn’t that qualify for the mark?

I thought it was a joke at first but maybe not. Of course many of these people I'm sure are in favor of requiring ID at the ballot box...

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Post by umvi »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #73

No, the US has far more religious fundamentalists than the EU. They believe that such a system is tantamount to taking the Mark of the Beast, quoting Revelation 13:16-17: > And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has…

Huh? I come from a religious upbringing and this just seems like an outlandish argument. Maybe some religious people would say that, but I hardly believe that would be the primary reason public/private ID system in the US would fail to gain traction.

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Post by paulryanrogers »

dotcommand wrote: post #135
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #73

No, the US has far more religious fundamentalists than the EU. They believe that such a system is tantamount to taking the Mark of the Beast, quoting Revelation 13:16-17: > And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has…

Or, we just have a natural/historical aversion to centralized power. Much of the nation initially started out believing that power should be local. Or you can simply make up nonsense about 'mark of the beast'. It's crazy how a nation of "religious fundamentalists" created the modern world. Crazy how "religious fundamentalists" created the wealthiest nation. There has always been a backlash against centralized/federal…

> It's crazy how a nation of "religious fundamentalists" created the modern world. Crazy how "religious fundamentalists" created the wealthiest nation.

Not sure that responding to an overly reductive conclusion with an even more reductive conclusion is helping.

FWIW I wouldn't say that fundamentalism itself did much to advance the world or make any nation rich. Except perhaps to motivate some people to seek unexploited resources elsewhere.

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Post by paulryanrogers »

umvi wrote: post #146
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #73

No, the US has far more religious fundamentalists than the EU. They believe that such a system is tantamount to taking the Mark of the Beast, quoting Revelation 13:16-17: > And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has…

Huh? I come from a religious upbringing and this just seems like an outlandish argument. Maybe some religious people would say that, but I hardly believe that would be the primary reason public/private ID system in the US would fail to gain traction.

It's reductive though I also grew up very religious and heard such arguments often.

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Post by whoaisme »

dotcommand wrote: post #135
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #73

No, the US has far more religious fundamentalists than the EU. They believe that such a system is tantamount to taking the Mark of the Beast, quoting Revelation 13:16-17: > And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has…

Or, we just have a natural/historical aversion to centralized power. Much of the nation initially started out believing that power should be local. Or you can simply make up nonsense about 'mark of the beast'. It's crazy how a nation of "religious fundamentalists" created the modern world. Crazy how "religious fundamentalists" created the wealthiest nation. There has always been a backlash against centralized/federal…

Yeah I remember all that backlash in the post 911 era. Contemporary America didn't create the modern world or all the wealth in the nation. They were handed all of that by previous generations and spent the last half century squandering it all because of their short sided stupidity. I don't really see a problem with identifying the US as a nation of fundamentalists.
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