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Ask HN: What Apple alternatives are you switching to?

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Due to the controversy around Apple's CSAM backdoor plans, it seems like quite a few people are wondering what kind of alternatives are available. Let's share them!

My choices:

- Desktop: Manjaro Gnome, because it feels like macOS. It even does the 3 finger swipe up to see all your apps with Apple's Touchpad. My wireless Apple Keyboard also works fine.

Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/UYPfgkC

To install it on my older MacBook Pro from 2014, but I had to use Android internet tethering to install the WiFi driver. To install it on my super new desktop, I had to use an ISO with a newer Kernel (5.13) due to the Radeon 6700 XT graphics card. I got that one from https://github.com/manjaro/release-review/releases/ instead of the Manjaro main website.

- Phone: I considered a Pixel with CalyxOS, but ended up buying a OnePlus 8T with microG variant of LineageOS from https://lineage.microg.org

Alternatively a Pixel phone would also run this version of LineageOS. MicroG (https://microg.org/) re-implements some parts of Google Play Services, while safeguarding your privacy, like push notifications. It also has some other Google-specific features re-implemented. I have over 40 apps and only found 1 that didn't work so far (which is Uber Eats, because they seem to require Google Advertisement ID). I pushed a modified Google Camera app to it (from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/), so my camera is better supported. I think only 3 out of 4 cameras are working, but I don't care.

- Watch: Amazfit GTR 2e with the official app. Alternatively it should work with Gadgetbridge if you don't want to use the offical app ("Zepp"). Amazfit GTR 2 is a better option if you want it to have WiFi and want to store music on it. Alternatives I considered: OnePlus Watch and Fossil Hybrid.

Apple features that I gave up:

- Apple Carplay: Because I don't want to use the Google ecosystem, Android Auto is not an alternative. I'll use my car's own GPS system, or I'll end up using my phone's offline maps.

- Apple Pay: My bank luckily has a contactless payment app for my phone, but I won't be making payments with my watch anymore.

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Main reason I'm using apple devices is for their quick security updates. I don't trust Samsung phone because they even run ads on $1500 phone. I am thinking to go with Pixel phone.

I'm an Android developer myself, and Samsung is universally hated among devs due to the bloatware/adware.

Manjaro Linux has rolling releases, so you get updates more swiftly than with other Linux flavours. LineageOS (regular or microG variant) get weekly updates if I recall correctly.

Pixel is a solid hardware choice in my book.

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I’m testing how much I can move from services before switching devices and don’t have everything mapped out just yet.

- cloud backups: testing iMazing Wi-Fi daily backups to NAS. Tested a clean restore to an iPad that was perfect. The daily backups aren’t running consistently yet but likely has to do with power save settings.

- Photos: syncing with Synology Photos. Backup seems fine (40k of 65k pictures so far). The app leaves a lot to be desired vs Apple Photos.

Will test Calyx / Graphene on a Pixel at some point but not likely to pass the wife test.

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Main reason I'm using apple devices is for their quick security updates. I don't trust Samsung phone because they even run ads on $1500 phone. I am thinking to go with Pixel phone.

Apple also runs ads everywhere on its really expensive phones, mind. They're ads for other Apple products.

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/02/17/the-paywalled-garden-ios-...

A Google Pixel has far fewer ads than an iPhone these days.

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Main reason I'm using apple devices is for their quick security updates. I don't trust Samsung phone because they even run ads on $1500 phone. I am thinking to go with Pixel phone.

Put GrapheneOS on that Pixel. I run it on a 3a. It's pretty easy to install and updates itself very regularly, can recommend.

https://grapheneos.org/

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Main reason I'm using apple devices is for their quick security updates. I don't trust Samsung phone because they even run ads on $1500 phone. I am thinking to go with Pixel phone.

Apple also runs ads everywhere on its really expensive phones, mind. They're ads for other Apple products. https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/02/17/the-paywalled-garden-ios-... A Google Pixel has far fewer ads than an iPhone these days.

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