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Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by Nursie »

Huffers2 wrote: post #68
hef19898 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never mind already back in the 80s and 90s the British population of the Falklands preferred to remain a part of the UK. Nevermind Argentina invaded the Falklands and was ultimately repulsed. No idea where the idea that the Falklands belong to Argentina comes from. The only meaningful population of the islands ever was and is British. Which makes the comparison to HK and Taiwan somewhat pointless, nevermind that Taiw…

Falklands is much closer to Argentina though - they should belong to Argentina by right of proximity.

There is no such right.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by 00deadbeef »

Huffers2 wrote: post #68
hef19898 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never mind already back in the 80s and 90s the British population of the Falklands preferred to remain a part of the UK. Nevermind Argentina invaded the Falklands and was ultimately repulsed. No idea where the idea that the Falklands belong to Argentina comes from. The only meaningful population of the islands ever was and is British. Which makes the comparison to HK and Taiwan somewhat pointless, nevermind that Taiw…

Falklands is much closer to Argentina though - they should belong to Argentina by right of proximity.

France is closer to the UK than the Falklands are to Argentina (35km vs almost 500km). Should France belong to the UK?

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by mschuster91 »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #57
kebman wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, that's very sad to hear... What would you do about it?

Remove inefficient governments, privatise all public services, let the market clean up the mess and attract foreign capital through zero taxation and lack of regulations. You need rich foreign expats, tired of paying 50% of their salaries in exchange for run down cities and homelessness, creating value in the country. If tourism is your only strategy you won't go far.

> privatise all public services, let the market clean up the mess

Half-Croat here. What you propose would destroy what is left of the country. Public services are already shoddy as it is because Croatia doesn't have much economy outside of tourism, agriculture and a bit of heavy industry. The best and young minds have been leaving the country for well over half a century.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

meowtimemania wrote: post #40
zingar wrote: post #17

"...(the only access to the islands) is to have a pre-arranged job contract with a company that has signed a form of bond taking responsibility for you" That sounds like all British immigration rules. My employer had to apply for my visa and had to pay all my healthcare contributions for a year up front before I could move for a job in London. If I lose my job I have a few weeks to find a new employer (who will have…

I’m from in the US and am naïve, but what is bizarre about that system?

The US is actually bizarre, anyone born in the US automatically gets US nationality. This leads to amusing birth tourism. Iirc it is the only country that does this.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by secondcoming »

AlbertCory wrote: post #3

I had the misfortune to have my first visit to London during the Falklands War. I'd always wanted to visit Parliament during Question Time, which is usually easy because it's so boring. But this was when Margaret Thatcher was having her memorable confrontations with Labour over the war, and there was a long line to get in. Never saw it. But Wellington, NZ has an accurate copy of the House of Commons for its own Parli…

> which is usually easy because it's so boring

Maybe that was the case back then but, last I looked, these days you need to write to your local MP to get you on the entry list.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by fiftyacorn »

carnitine wrote: post #30
Santosh83 wrote: post #13

If your occupied territory is far from the main seat of your remnant empire, you MUST send in as many troops as possible in the short term and then as many immigrants as possible in the long term, to consolidate your overseas hold by means of demographic claim. There is no great mystery here. What is interesting is how this behaviour from the Western nations is tacitly ignored but somehow China asserting its claim ov…

How can islands with no native population, which have never been ruled by Argentina, possibly be ‘occupied territory’? Argentina’s claim is basically that they are heir to the Spanish empire, despite the wishes of 99% of the residents.

As I understand it the claim is whether or not Falklands was populated when UK claimed it. Argentina says yes, uk says no

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by sbacic »

kebman wrote: post #37
sbacic wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm sure that can be alleviated with with and good leadership, however. I very much doubt it - one of the reasons we are in this mess is some 80+ years of human capital devastation - we have nowhere to draw experts or leaders from anymore.

Hm, that's very sad to hear... What would you do about it?

Sadly, nothing. Even if we were to elect a capable government, there would still be a large segment of the population that would resist any change as long as it conflicts with their economic interests.

I'm afraid we're talking into a societal, environmental and cultural catastrophe and that nothing will change until it's too late.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by the-dude »

zingar wrote: post #17

"...(the only access to the islands) is to have a pre-arranged job contract with a company that has signed a form of bond taking responsibility for you" That sounds like all British immigration rules. My employer had to apply for my visa and had to pay all my healthcare contributions for a year up front before I could move for a job in London. If I lose my job I have a few weeks to find a new employer (who will have…

What are the policies in your home country btw?

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by wodenokoto »

MomoXenosaga wrote: post #74
meowtimemania wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m from in the US and am naïve, but what is bizarre about that system?

The US is actually bizarre, anyone born in the US automatically gets US nationality. This leads to amusing birth tourism. Iirc it is the only country that does this.

It’s called Jus Soli and while not the most common thing, it isn’t exactly special to the US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

sbacic wrote: post #4
disabled wrote: post #2

I would say that there are places that are like the Falkland Island in Croatia.

As another Croatian, I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I'd like other people to experience the breathtaking beauty of my country. On the other hand, considering all the negative externalities and the rampant devastation that comes with our brand of tourism I'm not sure I want any more tourists coming. I especially don't want tourists buying holiday homes here.

Thanks to tourism your country was exposed to Western Europe and people speak English.

If you think things are bad now look at Serbia: sold to China because nobody in the EU cares.

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