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Did America just lose Afghanistan because of WhatsApp?

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Re: Did America just lose Afghanistan because of WhatsApp?

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Post by icemelt8 »

hamburgerwah wrote: post #32
Seanambers wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I gather Pakistan has never been a good ally to the US. Still they receive both military and humanitarian aid to the tune of billions each year. And they were the ones sheltering Bin Laden and from what I can gather the ISI - Pakistani intelligence is the ones funding Taliban. It strikes me as very strange that the US hasn't pressured Pakistan more over the years and that it has accepted this behavior all t…

The problem is how much shit will we put up with to stop an islamic majority nuclear power from collapsing into the hands of a jihad leaning ideology. Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, is very good at playing the game of "Boy it'd be a shame if this nuclear information/material were to fall into the hands of say, the iranians. Did you know we could really use some money for fighter jets to help defend us from ind…

so much misinformation, US has stopped selling fighter jets long time ago, the billions in aid is a myth, US should take responsibility for Afghanistan. Pakistan is a poor nation of 200 million people, if that country's agencies somehow did a proxy war that defeated the combined military might of the 20 top nations, then this is a moment for them to reflect not deflect.

Re: Did America just lose Afghanistan because of WhatsApp?

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Post by graderjs »

cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #19

I've seen this linked elsewhere. The short answer is: No. America lost Afghanistan because we spent twenty years fighting a proxy war with Pakistan without ever being able to actually talk about it. Just like we can't talk about Ecohealth Alliance making the Damn Virus or the fraudulent studies that they used to ban treating the Damn Virus with HCQ, or Obama sending the OPM Database to China, or Joe Biden being a sen…

  Biden: "America is back".

  Throgold: "Back" where? In second place? As the Middle-East's hierodule?
- from the bookthetic: Dreams in Trumpistan - A field guide to navigating the United States of China in a post-COVID world.

In reply to your above: Can you expoind on the idea that Afghan war was US-vs-Paki proxy war? I thought it was at least US-vs-China or US-vs-Russia or US-vs-Israel (weird...but)???

Re: Did America just lose Afghanistan because of WhatsApp?

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Post by ikerdanzel »

hamburgerwah wrote: post #32
Seanambers wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I gather Pakistan has never been a good ally to the US. Still they receive both military and humanitarian aid to the tune of billions each year. And they were the ones sheltering Bin Laden and from what I can gather the ISI - Pakistani intelligence is the ones funding Taliban. It strikes me as very strange that the US hasn't pressured Pakistan more over the years and that it has accepted this behavior all t…

The problem is how much shit will we put up with to stop an islamic majority nuclear power from collapsing into the hands of a jihad leaning ideology. Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, is very good at playing the game of "Boy it'd be a shame if this nuclear information/material were to fall into the hands of say, the iranians. Did you know we could really use some money for fighter jets to help defend us from ind…

The correct strategy is not to conquer but to cull. From time to time, US should just send military in to render to site as vast land of death and pity-ness say under a week. Repeat this periodically over 50 years. No forces on earth would be able to sustain that even if Russian and Chinese combine forces. Sharp and devastating destruction played over years is extremely effective and much affordable than the current Afghan and Iraq 2 decades of debacles.
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