I suppose it’s a moot point?
Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
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Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I do. I also believe in my right to criticize them for appointing themselves censors. This need to paternalistically protect other adults from online content "for their own good" is authoritarian and rude and I hope it goes out of fashion right soon. It's extra bothersome when instance admins (unrelated to the mastodon project) decide for their users what they should be allowed to read. Imagine if your email ser…
> Imagine if your email service decided you couldn't send or receive email to certain domains they decided were "bad people". Almost every email provider does something like this - it is called a spam filter. If email of a certain type comes in, it doesn’t go into your inbox. Is that censorship? Sure, you can go into your spam folder and see it, just like mastodon users can connect to an instance not listed on the ma…
You can turn off your spam filter if you want to, you can't turn off the defederation disconnect. One is opt-in curation, the other is not. I hope we get smart opt-in curation on a user by user basis soon, and you could subscribe to certain curators as you want.
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#73Is it really complete list of communities available through Mastodon or is there more? Looks pretty tiny so far.
There's also https://instances.social/ and https://fediverse.party/en/mastodon
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#74This is the way we defeat stalker capitalists who are trading trinkets to the natives for land. The core functionality of FaceCrook, Twatter and Instaglam doesn't require $billions. The data we pay for these services is worth so much more that the exchange is essentially theft. I have no use for a Twatter replacement, but when a non-profit (or benefit corporation) starts up a viable FaceCrook replacement, I will glad…
Facebook makes ~$20 off your data each year (https://www.thegoodestate.com/facebook-arpu/). You might believe your data is worth more than that, but no one is willing to pay more for it.
Regardless, name calling will not engender support for your position, even for people who already have similar ideals.
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Imagine if your email service decided you couldn't send or receive email to certain domains they decided were "bad people". Almost every email provider does something like this - it is called a spam filter. If email of a certain type comes in, it doesn’t go into your inbox. Is that censorship? Sure, you can go into your spam folder and see it, just like mastodon users can connect to an instance not listed on the ma…
You can turn off your spam filter if you want to, you can't turn off the defederation disconnect. One is opt-in curation, the other is not. I hope we get smart opt-in curation on a user by user basis soon, and you could subscribe to certain curators as you want.
How is spam filtering an opt-in curation? I never enabled it on my gmail account, it was just on.
Can Mastodon servers not choose to federate with other servers outside the central Mastodon service?
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#76This is the way we defeat stalker capitalists who are trading trinkets to the natives for land. The core functionality of FaceCrook, Twatter and Instaglam doesn't require $billions. The data we pay for these services is worth so much more that the exchange is essentially theft. I have no use for a Twatter replacement, but when a non-profit (or benefit corporation) starts up a viable FaceCrook replacement, I will glad…
Facebook makes ~$20 off your data each year ( https://www.thegoodestate.com/facebook-arpu/ ). You might believe your data is worth more than that, but no one is willing to pay more for it. Regardless, name calling will not engender support for your position, even for people who already have similar ideals.
1. In a capitalist society, I should be able to name the price for something that belongs to me.
2. FaceCrook still has my data after they sell it. Part of their valuation is based on the future value of all the data they have accumulated.
>name calling will not engender support for your position
I find that humor is an effective counter to power. These corporations that are selling the masses trinkets for something of true value while wasting the talents of our "best and brightest" on stalkertech deserve ridicule. Why should I afford these petty crooks any respect?
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook makes ~$20 off your data each year ( https://www.thegoodestate.com/facebook-arpu/ ). You might believe your data is worth more than that, but no one is willing to pay more for it. Regardless, name calling will not engender support for your position, even for people who already have similar ideals.
1. In a capitalist society, I should be able to name the price for something that belongs to me. 2. FaceCrook still has my data after they sell it. Part of their valuation is based on the future value of all the data they have accumulated. >name calling will not engender support for your position I find that humor is an effective counter to power. These corporations that are selling the masses trinkets for something…
1. In a capitalist society price is dictated by supply/demand
I would expect Facebook's valuation is less about knowing you like dogs and more on the fact that their advertising system allows people to show dog teeshirts directly to people who like dogs
I'm surprised the average user's data is worth even $20/year
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. In a capitalist society, I should be able to name the price for something that belongs to me. 2. FaceCrook still has my data after they sell it. Part of their valuation is based on the future value of all the data they have accumulated. >name calling will not engender support for your position I find that humor is an effective counter to power. These corporations that are selling the masses trinkets for something…
1. In a capitalist society price is dictated by supply/demand I would expect Facebook's valuation is less about knowing you like dogs and more on the fact that their advertising system allows people to show dog teeshirts directly to people who like dogs I'm surprised the average user's data is worth even $20/year
You are severely underestimating (or understating) the power of big data.
You really think their stalkertech amounts to: user#=1337, likes=dogs???
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. In a capitalist society price is dictated by supply/demand I would expect Facebook's valuation is less about knowing you like dogs and more on the fact that their advertising system allows people to show dog teeshirts directly to people who like dogs I'm surprised the average user's data is worth even $20/year
You are severely underestimating (or understating) the power of big data. You really think their stalkertech amounts to: user#=1337, likes=dogs???
no but back to the economic argument the supply is so significant that no one person's data is worth jack unless they're a politician or something like that. Individually its basically worthless.
Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you.
> This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you. Certainly. Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences, as they say.
“There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.”
― Idi Amin
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9082497-there-is-freedom-of...