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Maybe I am missing the point but what is the problem here? is there some major security flaw in zoom?
Well, for one, this happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25474372
Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?
I don’t know what rock you are living under but everyone uses Zoom. Even Cisco sales reps use it for sales meetings and they own WebEx.
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Maybe I am missing the point but what is the problem here? is there some major security flaw in zoom?
Zoom is not end to end encrypted at all, and they can see every video stream. Also their clients had vulnerabilities in the past.
Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
Maybe I am not doing a lot of meetings compared to others but I really haven't had more or less problems with Teams, Google products, or GoToMeeting (haven't used webex in a long time) ... compared to Zoom.
It's all a wash for me among those experience wise.
I constantly have various orgs tell me all about how they only use X video conferencing app because of Y experience. Most of those stories conflict ;)
Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
Dang, Webex is still that bad for you? Is it because you're using company's instances where it's more locked down and they're on older code? I know it's not perfect, but it's pretty reliable for me (and full disclosure, I work for a different subsidiary of Cisco - but I also try to be pretty critical of it since I'm close to it) I don't use Zoom a ton, but I've experienced what feels like a similar amount of sluggish…
Beyond that, I couldn't see the presented content in full-screen. There was a lot of junk in the form of perpetual UI elements for the "fullscreen mode".
These seemed like pretty fundamental misses for the platform to make.
Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
As someone how uses both Zoom and Google Hangouts, there is nothing Zoom offers that Google hangouts does not provide. The quality is the same for both, but at least Hangouts does not install a sketchy client on my machine that constantly runs in the background.
Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?
Maybe I am missing the point but what is the problem here? is there some major security flaw in zoom?
Executives charged with coordinating attacks against citizens outside China, on behalf of the PRC. [1]
They recently settled a class action for lying about having E2E encryption. [2]
[0] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=...
[1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele...
Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
Webex - which I have to use as part of a university course I'm doing on the side - requires you to run it in a browser on my OS, it has really awful options (like allowing the presenter to unmute people), half the claimed features just aren't available (virtual whiteboard, no major loss as everyone uses a shared google doc instead), and if you disconnect for some reason (like sound stops working which happens fairly frequently) you are kicked out of a group and you can't get back in.
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I don’t know what rock you are living under but everyone uses Zoom. Even Cisco sales reps use it for sales meetings and they own WebEx.
> everyone uses Zoom Well, my org uses Teams and I don't know anyone who uses Zoom professionally.
I think last year someone from the accounting department suggested cancelling Zoom because we had meetings already included in Teams.
It caused quite a commotion from the Zoom users a few minutes after we learnt about it. The plan was promptly cancelled.
Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
I think Teams has every bug known to computers. Though, I've found GotoMeeting to work extremely well, and WebEx has been very decent but much better than Teams.