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Atlas robot does parkour

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Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#51
An impressive accomplishment -- and beautiful in its own way.

Alas, I can't help but keep imagining a Terminator climbing and jumping over barriers, instead of those smaller, less-threatening robots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSXl_XKXZAI

I'm rather surprised no one else has mentioned James Cameron's robot-from-the-future nightmare so far.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#52
post #8

I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

> I feel like "AI Robot cops show implicit bias resulting in 3 deaths" or "Robot Cop shoots innocent person after facial recognition goes bad"

Maybe. But that's not different than human cops who already show implicit bias and poor facial recognition and kill people they have no right to kill.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

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post #8

I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

"AI Robot cops show implicit bias resulting in 3 deaths" is a headline today if you remove the AI robot part. As evidenced by the comments in this thread and any other on these robots, the public is extremely skeptical of them. If they do indeed exhibit these kinds of harms, the public will likely enact severe restrictions on them. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up in a situation where a lot of benefits are left on the table due to over-caution, just as you might see with self-driving cars that kill fewer people but are highlighted in the news when the rare accident does happen.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#54
post #8

I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

I'm not surprised people look at this human-like and try to attribute human-like responsibilities. It'll be a marketing trap that many fall into.

But for now, the sensing, state estimation, and energy density problems preclude the use of these robots in the real world. There's far too much uncertainty in the structure of the world or the modelling of unknown areas to do parkour outside -- unless I've missed something huge that boston dynamics has done without talking about.

As someone said below, however, if you can develop a hybrid control scheme with a human controlling a smart-ish legged vehicle, you're on a roll. That's the future for legged vehicles that I could see: something like mechwarrior or titanfall, but without the AI (remote operated). Or Dreadnaughts. But small (as someone else pointed out).

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#55
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post #18

What can I do to defend myself against killer robots? Seriously, is there something simple that I can put in my glovebox of my car to use in case these robots start getting scary? Is there a simple household good that will work well against these, until they start explicitly shielding against stuff?

Spray can of sticky expanding foam for the various sensors? Edit: Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2rVHLKS3g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVy5Vm43X_A There's also bulk rodent glue, if you could figure out how to shoot it :) https://www.domyown.com/catchmaster-bulk-glue-can-p-15693.ht...

So my mini fire extinguisher might be the easiest for now.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#56

What makes this really interesting is that all this is achieved with very little or no "AI" (in the context of current machine learning approaches). Purely heuristics based approach to something as complex.

There is weired tendency to use AI for well-understood problems that have formulas and solutions.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#57
post #8

I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

I'm reminded of the robot that goes wrong in Robocop. Except, with Reinforcement Learning, we'll have a robot that executes hundreds flawlessly until stopped. This is the kind of advancement that should be regulated, IMHO.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#58
post #18

What can I do to defend myself against killer robots? Seriously, is there something simple that I can put in my glovebox of my car to use in case these robots start getting scary? Is there a simple household good that will work well against these, until they start explicitly shielding against stuff?

Paint ought to do it. Chuck a bucket of paint at one of these and the sensors will be knocked out instantly.

It’s kind of hard to fling paint, but I guess just making a potato gun that spits out paint should be good.

I’ll be looking for some Holi festival type gear.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

#59
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they were ever deployed as auxiliaries to law enforcement, my hope would be any weapon would have to have a human approve a request. Robots should be able to swarm and restrain uncooperative suspects so there should be less need for lethality unless the perpetrator is an active threat against other people -a hostage situation, mass shooting, etc.

Robots will be the new zip ties to restrain you while your rights are violated. It’s not a tech failure though, it’s a governance and accountability failure.

honestly I would prefer a robot goes in and restrains the people the police want vs a crowd of hopped up armed officers.

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

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post #43
post #8

I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

If we retain the same semi-centralised power structures for governing society, then I think it's unavoidable that we will face the scenario you mention. We need to decentralise governance and power in a massive way if we are to avoid negative effects from these incredibly powerful technologies.

If you look around the world (and across history), the natural outcome of weak central institutions is more along the lines of feudal warlords than something utopian.
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