Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government

nsizx wrote: post #4

swiley wrote: post #2

Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?

What should they use instead, some half assed open source solution subcontracted to the usual cronies of the consulting business?

Anything else, even something proprietary.

Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government

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Post by AdmiralAsshat » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, static-y, or suffer from "robot voice slow-down" lag.

To say nothing of the clusterf*ck that happens when two company-specific instances of Microsoft Teams try to communicate with each other and I'm left with a bunch of orphaned chatrooms with outside personnel after the meeting concludes.

Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government

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Post by rblatz » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:49 PM UTC

So this is different than all the other Zoom is insecure things. This is related to Zoom sending data to a “hostile” state (the US) which cannot guarantee GDPR compliance and there is no waiver to allow transmission of protected data to The US.

Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government

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Post by IncRnd » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:49 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…

I think Teams has every bug known to computers. Though, I've found GotoMeeting to work extremely well, and WebEx has been very decent but much better than Teams.

Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government

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Post by rblatz » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:52 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #2

Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?

I don’t know what rock you are living under but everyone uses Zoom. Even Cisco sales reps use it for sales meetings and they own WebEx.

Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government

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Post by wsinks » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 3:52 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…

Dang, Webex is still that bad for you? Is it because you're using company's instances where it's more locked down and they're on older code?

I know it's not perfect, but it's pretty reliable for me (and full disclosure, I work for a different subsidiary of Cisco - but I also try to be pretty critical of it since I'm close to it)

I don't use Zoom a ton, but I've experienced what feels like a similar amount of sluggishness and AV issues as I have on Webex. At this point I know I'm a bit too close to have a useful anecdote, I'm just surprised that Webex is still put in the same group as Teams / Hangouts / GTM.

Again, not trying to sway you, just understand a bit better.