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Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

JadeNB wrote: post #49
Kaze404 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Freedom of speech isn't freedom to be a bigot. You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world has to listen.

> Freedom of speech isn't freedom to be a bigot. You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world has to listen. To be clear, it is freedom to be a bigot, or at least to say bigoted things, just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things (or, as hopefully goes without saying, for any action based on those bigoted things that goes beyond words).

> just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things

This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by user-the-name »

southerntofu wrote: post #32
user-the-name wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can not see a single thing on there that would raise any eyebrows.

> determine whether information they come across online is trustworthy or not Who gets to determine what is trustworthy or not? Is it a central authority, or a WoT? The former is a very dangerous tool of social control, the latter does not usually address concerns of misinformation, as the WoT forms information bubbles with their confirmation biases. > the project will allow users to vote on content trustworthiness.…

You are knee-jerk reacting to keywords you have been taught to hate, instead of actually reading and comprehending what is being said.

You need to work on that, first of all.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by indigochill »

streamofdigits wrote: post #26

I wonder if all the hoopla is because mastodon / the fediverse are finally receiving some (deserved) traction? The accounts count does not seem to show a new regime ( https://the-federation.info/ ) but maybe there are more reliable indicators? In any case, sorting out conflicts of interest, business models, competing visions etc about the fediverse is a task that is still almost 100% for the future, as being niche an…

Isn't (one of) the point of federation to limit the scope of surveillance? e.g. My host knows everything about me, but hosts it peers with only know that I'm indigochill@myhost, essentially the same as email.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

#54

Post by edoceo »

codesections wrote: post #11

> I want Mastodon to have more resources for things like hiring extra developers, UX designers, developing official apps and so on, and I want there to be a clear boundary between fundraising for that cause and my personal income. This is an important step, and one that I'd love to see more FOSS projects take

In USA it's pretty difficult to get a NFP (501c3) created around just code. One needs to have other things in place, community, grand goals, etc. I wish it was easier too but US-IRS has put additional scrutiny.

If any lawyers on here have a speciality on this I'm looking for help.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

#55

Post by bovermyer »

proactivesvcs wrote: post #47

Glad to see this important step in securing the future of software that is more than just code. Having been a member of the Fosstodon instance https://www.fosstodon.org/ for six months I expect that many HNers may find it an interesting and engaging instance. It's centred around free/open source software and similar services and is fully of friendly, witty and knowledgeable folk.

I applied to join Fosstodon based on your comment.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by wintermutestwin »

This is the way we defeat stalker capitalists who are trading trinkets to the natives for land. The core functionality of FaceCrook, Twatter and Instaglam doesn't require $billions. The data we pay for these services is worth so much more that the exchange is essentially theft.

I have no use for a Twatter replacement, but when a non-profit (or benefit corporation) starts up a viable FaceCrook replacement, I will gladly donate.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by codesections »

edoceo wrote: post #54
codesections wrote: post #11

> I want Mastodon to have more resources for things like hiring extra developers, UX designers, developing official apps and so on, and I want there to be a clear boundary between fundraising for that cause and my personal income. This is an important step, and one that I'd love to see more FOSS projects take

In USA it's pretty difficult to get a NFP (501c3) created around just code. One needs to have other things in place, community, grand goals, etc. I wish it was easier too but US-IRS has put additional scrutiny. If any lawyers on here have a speciality on this I'm looking for help.

> In USA it's pretty difficult to get a NFP (501c3) created around just code.

Yeah, I know, and that does suck. It's varied a bit over time with various IRS administrations, though, so maybe it'll get better.

(I am a lawyer, but I don't have an active practice since I became a programmer, so I'm not someone who can help. But good luck!)

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by JadeNB »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #51
JadeNB wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Freedom of speech isn't freedom to be a bigot. You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world has to listen. To be clear, it is freedom to be a bigot, or at least to say bigoted things, just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things (or, as hopefully goes without saying, for any action based on those bigoted things that goes beyond words).

> just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you.

> This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you.

Certainly. Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences, as they say.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by kaidon »

fortyrod wrote: post #46
fortyrod wrote: post #43

This title needs to be disambiguated. I had assumed that most musicians, and especially prog metal bands, were non-profit by default. I was curious why that had to be made explicit!

lol. No, seriously. I thought it was about a band. sigh.

Hey! So did I! I had hard that one of the members had become sick or something along those lines and figured they were pivoting to an NPO!

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Post by p4bl0 »

I really wonder how Bluesky [1] (Twitter's project of project to build a decentralized social media protocol) will take ActivityPub and especially Mastodon into account… Both the W3C and RetroShare have reacted to the news on Twitter [2] but are totally ignored so far.

[1] https://blueskyweb.org/

[2] https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106

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