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Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Related discussion: there was recently some move within the community to try and topple the current maintainer. That calls was based on technical/UX disagreements (regarding the local timeline) and on the maintainer allegedly having connection to a surveillance project called Eunomia: https://seedy.xyz/posts/0005-open-letter/ I am not a member of the Mastodon community and i have no clue to the veracity of these stat…

Complete and utter conspiracy theorist bullshit, basically.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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And as a hint about whether that is a goal, take a look at Mastodon's instance picker [1], which says: > We only list communities that are committed to active moderation against racism, sexism and transphobia. [1] https://joinmastodon.org/communities

That’s just basic human decency right there.

You will find that a lot of people crying about free speech do not place much value on basic human decency.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

#23

That's pretty cool (and also pretty ridiculous that it took 8 months). I'm kinda confused by the last part: > Since both Patreon and our custom sponsorship platform are based around rewards to patrons/sponsors, they cannot be classified as donations, so there are no changes to how those are taxed. So when German non-profits want to hand out merch in exchange for a specific donation amount, non-profit has to pay for-p…

That would be my default assumption. Back when I was running a non-profit in Poland, this was the assumption we've made when evaluating options like Patreon - that we'll account for it as income (I don't know the actual interpretation because I've stepped down before the foundation started using such services).

On a related note - also in terms of Polish tax laws (which are bound to be more similar to German than e.g. US would be) - I recently talked about this with a tax advisor, in context of individuals funding OSS work via Patreon and other donation schemes; their answer was that it's a bit case-by-case, depending on your reward structure. If the donors are getting direct value back for their donations, it'll be seen as you selling those rewards (and/or performing a service), which will obligate you to start an actual business. The safe way to do it is to not give anything in return, except maybe for a trinket that's not commensurate to the value of donation.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Related discussion: there was recently some move within the community to try and topple the current maintainer. That calls was based on technical/UX disagreements (regarding the local timeline) and on the maintainer allegedly having connection to a surveillance project called Eunomia: https://seedy.xyz/posts/0005-open-letter/ I am not a member of the Mastodon community and i have no clue to the veracity of these stat…

Complete and utter conspiracy theorist bullshit, basically.

Do you care to elaborate for those people like me who don't have detailed knowledge of the Eunomia project? The official project page features wording that may lead a privacy-conscious person to raise eyebrows: https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/825171

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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That’s just basic human decency right there.

You will find that a lot of people crying about free speech do not place much value on basic human decency.

This is a really bad faith comment

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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I wonder if all the hoopla is because mastodon / the fediverse are finally receiving some (deserved) traction? The accounts count does not seem to show a new regime (https://the-federation.info/) but maybe there are more reliable indicators?

In any case, sorting out conflicts of interest, business models, competing visions etc about the fediverse is a task that is still almost 100% for the future, as being niche and unknown does not put much pressure.

The issue of a "local or global timeline" is imho but the thin edge of a wedge: the current open source fediverse projects largely emulate the surveillance platforms (indiscriminately copying the good and the bad). That is extremely limiting and ultimately self-defeating. The open source fediverse can, must (and most likely in due course will) redefine the meaning of social platforms so as to undo the damage done by the first generations. Godspeed

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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You will find that a lot of people crying about free speech do not place much value on basic human decency.

This is a really bad faith comment

Why? "Active moderation against racism, sexism and transphobia" is, indeed, just basic human decency.

And people keep saying, over and over and over, that doing this is against "freedom of speech".

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Complete and utter conspiracy theorist bullshit, basically.

Do you care to elaborate for those people like me who don't have detailed knowledge of the Eunomia project? The official project page features wording that may lead a privacy-conscious person to raise eyebrows: https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/825171

I can not see a single thing on there that would raise any eyebrows.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a really bad faith comment

Why? "Active moderation against racism, sexism and transphobia" is, indeed, just basic human decency. And people keep saying, over and over and over, that doing this is against "freedom of speech".

It is, actually. Once you restrict what others can say there's no freedom of speech anymore. It's like China saying you can't talk about the regime - I'm sure they consider that "basic human decency" as well.

Re: Mastodon now a non-profit organisation

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That's pretty cool (and also pretty ridiculous that it took 8 months). I'm kinda confused by the last part: > Since both Patreon and our custom sponsorship platform are based around rewards to patrons/sponsors, they cannot be classified as donations, so there are no changes to how those are taxed. So when German non-profits want to hand out merch in exchange for a specific donation amount, non-profit has to pay for-p…

To qualify as a donation under German tax law, a donation needs to be voluntary (freiwillig) and altruistic (uneigennützig).[1] Where exactly the boundary between altruism and personal benefit lies would have to be judged by the courts in each individual case. For example, engraving the name of a donor on an altar, naming her in intercessions and inviting her to a dedication ceremony was interpreted as an "outflow of charitable funds" (Ausfluss der gemeinnützigen Mittelvergabe) and entitled to a tax deduction.[2]

[1] For more details see the following ruling of Germany's Federal Fiscal Court: https://www.bundesfinanzhof.de/de/entscheidung/entscheidunge... (in German).

[2] Cf. this ruling of Germany's Federal Fiscal Court: https://www.bundesfinanzhof.de/de/entscheidung/entscheidunge... (in German).

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