There's a practical need for technological solution which can mitigate pandemics at scale. We went from historic cordon sanitaires that lasted multiple years to ~12 months for mrna vaccines. Effective contact tracing that enables societies to "live" with the virus while vaccine rollout is logical next step. Of course the chance of system being exploited in societies with the political appetite to actually enforce such a system is high. But IMO it's better for the capability exist somewhere than nowhere, especially when risk for pandemics will only increase with population + development over time.
5G and Beyond for Contact Tracing
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Re: 5G and Beyond for Contact Tracing
#12Yet again, the difference between conspiracy theory and reality is 6-12 months.
At this point we can assume that anything technologically feasible for surveillance is implemented or pending implementation. There were some suggestions that the push for 5G comes from the desire to improve location tracking which is much better on 5G.
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#13Librem/Pinephone's killer feature is going to be the baseband modem kill-switch. It's going to be the only way to opt out of this category of tracking.
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#14Well, I will just note that some people were waiting exactly for this.
Care to elaborate? From your short sentence, I can only guess what you mean, and it is at odds of what I get from the article, which says: > Privacy is a key requirement of any contact tracing systems
Absolutely true that keeping surveillance measures private is key to their successful deployment. Then several years later you can mock the critics by pointing out it's nothing new and they shouldn't be so dramatic.
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#15> We argue that privacy enhancement technologies, albeit highly advisable, might not be strictly necessary, in front of the recent push of operators to enforce privacy via organizational measures.
The cynic in me says this is true - not because this is anywhere near sufficient to allay the concerns of privacy advocates, but because it will allay the concerns of legislators and most people who are subject to it won't know the difference.
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#16There's a practical need for technological solution which can mitigate pandemics at scale. We went from historic cordon sanitaires that lasted multiple years to ~12 months for mrna vaccines. Effective contact tracing that enables societies to "live" with the virus while vaccine rollout is logical next step. Of course the chance of system being exploited in societies with the political appetite to actually enforce suc…
You have to be kidding. This strategy of lockdown, wear a mask, contact trace and wait for vaccines clearly isn't working. Are you suggesting that it would work if the government could track our locations better?
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#17Librem/Pinephone's killer feature is going to be the baseband modem kill-switch. It's going to be the only way to opt out of this category of tracking.
IMO: The real killer feature is the stuff Pine64 is doing with lorawan plus the phone's expansion bus.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Care to elaborate? From your short sentence, I can only guess what you mean, and it is at odds of what I get from the article, which says: > Privacy is a key requirement of any contact tracing systems
Absolutely true that keeping surveillance measures private is key to their successful deployment. Then several years later you can mock the critics by pointing out it's nothing new and they shouldn't be so dramatic.
Not sure, if you are trolling, but assuming good faith: That's not what privacy means. That's secrecy.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Care to elaborate? From your short sentence, I can only guess what you mean, and it is at odds of what I get from the article, which says: > Privacy is a key requirement of any contact tracing systems
Your social graph = you. There is no privacy or anonymity in any of these schemes if the data is ever sent to a central server.
That's very general and generally known (at least in this community). How do you see that not addressed in the article? which means are you missing?
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#20Librem/Pinephone's killer feature is going to be the baseband modem kill-switch. It's going to be the only way to opt out of this category of tracking.
I imagine people caring about that could be shopping specifically for (any) pre-5G phones and networks. Might have an effect of holding up the deprecation of 4G as the first mover network will be economically punished.