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Re: Aspartame and cancer – new evidence for causation

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Post by cutthegrass2 » Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 4:35 PM UTC

noir_lord wrote: post #84

Auracle wrote: post #62

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Scientists think that up to 50% of cancer might come from alcohol consumptions, but it’s apparently quite hard to study.

I went effectively teetotal around 2007 (I got spectaculary blackout drunk - woke up nearly a day later and couldn't remember getting home or much of the 8hrs prior to that - decided that was a silly way to live and quit). Honestly not something I miss, I raise a glass of whiskey every xmas in remembrance of my grandfathers (Irish one side, Scottish the other). Otherwise never, it's fun when the doc/nurse asks "How a…

> Though the youngsters coming up now drink way less than I did at 18 in 1998

I've noticed this too (also British). I'm very close in age to you and remember the news stories regarding University drinking challenges and deaths in the late 90's.

I'm almost teetotal these days too, partly because I have young kids but also because I just don't seem to have the taste for it that I once had.

Also, I'm a little concerned about the potential longer term (yet to be discovered) health implications regarding the level of drinking our generation did at the time.

Re: Aspartame and cancer – new evidence for causation

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Post by silon42 » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 9:30 AM UTC

psyc wrote: post #142

vladvasiliu wrote: post #132

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I remember an ad I once saw on TV about some snack, and the tagline was something like "you can't eat only one". I can't remember the product, though... One example I have in mind about products being made like this is Nestlé's Extreme ice cream cones. They're fairly sugary throughout, but right at the end there's a small "chocolate bomb", super sweet, that just gives you that "I have to have another one" craving.

Lay's Potato Chips. I remember that one. Pringles was Once you pop, you can't stop.

Most useless invention: resealable bag of potato chips.

Re: Aspartame and cancer – new evidence for causation

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Post by Bud » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 7:14 PM UTC

Gatsky wrote: post #271

Bud wrote: post #108

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Even without the fundamental error of calling aspartame an amino acid, this argument is also similar to saying that chlorine and sodium can't be toxic since they are "in" sodium chloride, and salt is perfectly safe. Betrays a fundamental lack of understanding of chemistry.

Thank you for taking the time to compose this condescending and useless analogy.

Useless? It explains the error you're making.

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Post by jessaustin » Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 12:31 AM UTC

nicoburns wrote: post #145

adrr wrote: post #114

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Meat is associated with cancer. We see this in Americans with the increase in colon cancer that is correlated with the increase of meat consumption. Also hot drinks is a suspected carcinogen. Alcohol is a known carcinogen and even if you don’t consume it, it is present in fruit and can also be produced in your gut. People worry about suspected carcinogens but they are everywhere. Overall cancer rates are at record lo…

"Americans use sunblock" seems like quite a generalisation. Is that universally true? Spending less time in the sun could easily lead to less natural protection from melanin leading the more extreme exposure when it does occur.

Decades from now everyone will laugh at us for using the sunblock formulations we currently use. It is as if they are designed to cause cancer when used as directed.

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Post by sizzle » Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 7:13 PM UTC

mattmaroon wrote: post #309

sizzle wrote: post #277

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Ever read the label on a LaCroix can? Can you tell me what the “natural” flavors are made from? The lack of transparency scares me, will the way thru process “natural flavor” cause cancer?

I happen to do beverage production for a living now. I know exactly where they come from and how many are made. There’s nothing to be scared of. The FDA has a list of things you can call “natural flavor”. They are essentially all extracts, mostly refined through distillations. I’ll give you an example: blueberry. Industrial juice is typically concentrated by vacuum distillation. It had to be shipped frozen, and that’…

Thanks for demystifying this topic for me. Gonna look into these flavors to try!