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Canada to require vaccinations for air and train passengers

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Re: Canada to require vaccinations for air and train passengers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a long way of saying that you're changing the definition of X between assertions. "Effective" doesn't mean the same thing in both contexts.

Vaccines are highly, but not perfectly, effective. The definition is the same, it's the adjective that's changing. For true immunity without anyone else needing to be vaccinated they'd need to be perfectly effective. Since they're not, more of the community needs to be vaccinated. The less effective they are (or the more widespread or infectious the virus is) the larger the proportion of the population that needs to…

If you have the polio vaccine, you basically cannot get polio and have lifelong immunity. That's an effective vaccine. It doesn't require everyone else to get frequent booster shots. The current covid vaccine does not measure up to the polio vaccine.

Re: Canada to require vaccinations for air and train passengers

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This needs to be legally challenged. No way does this not violate charter of rights and freedoms and probably Nuremberg codes. If you let a government force or punitively coerce its people to put a drug in their body for a disease with less than 1% mortality, same magnitude as a flue. You no longer have bodily autonomy. You're a slave to the state. They can do anything they want in the future, under any nebulas threa…

Immigrants to the United States are already subject to being required to have certain vaccines. [1] [1] https://www.uscis.gov/tools/designated-civil-surgeons/vaccin...

Immigration is generally considered a priviledge that can be restricted freely. Being able to live a normal life is a much more fundamental right.

Re: Canada to require vaccinations for air and train passengers

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Does this include international travelers? Is it legal to prevent someone from going back to their country if they are not vaccinated? What about incoming passengers? Are they going to have ties with all incoming airlines to check vaccination status?

Legal is what the government of a given country says is legal. My understanding is that New Zealand for example allows returning travelers but they have to stay in designated quarantine hotels and those are basically unavailable.

> Legal is what the government of a given country says is legal.

Governments are generally restricted by a constitution.

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