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Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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They still are not saying with which part of that lineup they want to compete with, which is a good thing.

I still remember Pat Gelsinger telling us over and over that Larrabee would compete with the high end of the GeForce/Radeon offering back in the days, including when it was painfully obvious to everyone that it definitely would not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_(microarchitecture)

Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #11

As TFA rightly points out, unless something drastically changes in the next ~6mo, Intel is going to launch into the most favorable market situation we've seen in our lifetimes. Previously, the expectation is that they needed to introduce something that was competitive with the top end cards from nVidia and AMD. With basically all GPU's out of stock currently they really just need to introduce something competitive wi…

Intel has the manufacturing capability to really beat up Nvidia. Even if the cards don’t perform like top-tier cards they could still win bigly here. Very exciting!

Indeed. Something that's affordable and hits even RX 580 performance would grab the attention of many. Good enough really is when supply is low and prices are high.

Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #11

As TFA rightly points out, unless something drastically changes in the next ~6mo, Intel is going to launch into the most favorable market situation we've seen in our lifetimes. Previously, the expectation is that they needed to introduce something that was competitive with the top end cards from nVidia and AMD. With basically all GPU's out of stock currently they really just need to introduce something competitive wi…

Intel has the manufacturing capability to really beat up Nvidia. Even if the cards don’t perform like top-tier cards they could still win bigly here. Very exciting!

Intel is not even manufacturing these, they are TSMC 7nm so they are competing for the same fab capacity that everyone else is using.

Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #11

As TFA rightly points out, unless something drastically changes in the next ~6mo, Intel is going to launch into the most favorable market situation we've seen in our lifetimes. Previously, the expectation is that they needed to introduce something that was competitive with the top end cards from nVidia and AMD. With basically all GPU's out of stock currently they really just need to introduce something competitive wi…

Intel has the manufacturing capability to really beat up Nvidia. Even if the cards don’t perform like top-tier cards they could still win bigly here. Very exciting!

it seems AMD manufactures most 7nm all at TSMC, but intel has a factory coming online next year in Arizona... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_si...

I could see gov/Military investing/awarding more contracts based on these 'locally' situated plants

Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #11

As TFA rightly points out, unless something drastically changes in the next ~6mo, Intel is going to launch into the most favorable market situation we've seen in our lifetimes. Previously, the expectation is that they needed to introduce something that was competitive with the top end cards from nVidia and AMD. With basically all GPU's out of stock currently they really just need to introduce something competitive wi…

Intel has the manufacturing capability to really beat up Nvidia. Even if the cards don’t perform like top-tier cards they could still win bigly here. Very exciting!

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Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #9

I really hope this breaks Nvidia's stranglehold on deep learning. Some competition would hopefully bring down prices at the compute high-end. AMD don't seem to even be trying on the software-side at the moment. ROCm is a mess.

I think this situation can only be fixed by moving up into languages that compile to vendor specific GPU languages. Just treat CUDA, openCL, vulkan compute, metal compute(??) etc. as the assembly of graphics cards.

https://www.oneapi.io/

Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #14
post #9

I really hope this breaks Nvidia's stranglehold on deep learning. Some competition would hopefully bring down prices at the compute high-end. AMD don't seem to even be trying on the software-side at the moment. ROCm is a mess.

I wholeheartedly agree. PyTorch did recently release AMD support which I was happy to see (though I have not tested it), I’m hoping there is more to come. https://pytorch.org/blog/pytorch-for-amd-rocm-platform-now-a...

Unfortunately that support is via ROCm, which doesn't support the last three generations (!) of AMD hardware: https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm.github.io/blob/master/hardware....

Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022

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post #15

If Intel provides as much Linux driver support as they do for their current integrated graphics lineup, we might have a new favourite among Linux users.

This is the main reason I'm excited about this. I really hope they continue the very open approach they've used so far, but even if they start going binary blob for some of it like nvidia and (now to a lesser extent) amd have at least they're likely to properly implement KMS and other things because that's what they've been doing already.
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