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Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by SkyPuncher »

karmakaze wrote: post #54
SkyPuncher wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I was in a Walmart, it felt like they were doing everything they could to communicate they didn't want me to shop at their store. * Gates at the main entrances * Cameras everywhere * "Security" walking through the store in clearly marked uniforms * Self checkouts with UX that clearly communicates a lack of trust.

All that seems like they don't want you to steal at their store by giving deterrent cues. Which parts were practically inconvenient, or slow you down?

It's not about inconvenience or efficiency. It's the hostile signaling Walmart is communicating to their customers.

I go to the Target just down the street, and it's the exact opposite experience.

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by barnesto »

dogman144 wrote: post #35

Whoever builds a wearable “sparkler” that is able to disrupt digital cameras or the underlying tech in a way that doesn’t require the user to wear a large scarf or similar is going to really usher in an interesting part of history.

You mean like this?

https://www.reflectacles.com/

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by after_care »

mbg721 wrote: post #55

Kroger has felt especially intrusive for a couple of decades; it's almost as though they're going out of their way to be manipulative and creepy, right from the store layout where Pepsi is $87.00 at your feet and Coke is $0.75 at eye level, down to the personalized coupons they send you in the mail. But the big stores that don't have loyalty cards are still slurping up data; they just get it from your credit card and…

Pay cash, wear a hat and a mask in store, decline to give them PII. It’s a pretty simple and effective solution.

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by chubot »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #28

Wait till it can ID shoplifting, and people get added to a shared database of blacklisted shoppers. You can steal no problem, but one day you'll be approached and asked to leave upon entering almost anywhere.

Meh I think it’s going to be acceptable to wear a mask for at least 5 years, and perhaps indefinitely, which easily defeats facial recognition.

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by seriousquestion »

jacquesm wrote: post #23

And: if you have a smartphone in your pocket there will be attempts to couple your smartphone device ID to your mugshots from various angles.

How does that work? How do they get the ID? And is it location accurate enough that it would not get confused with another phone a few feet away?

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by mbg721 »

after_care wrote: post #63
mbg721 wrote: post #55

Kroger has felt especially intrusive for a couple of decades; it's almost as though they're going out of their way to be manipulative and creepy, right from the store layout where Pepsi is $87.00 at your feet and Coke is $0.75 at eye level, down to the personalized coupons they send you in the mail. But the big stores that don't have loyalty cards are still slurping up data; they just get it from your credit card and…

Pay cash, wear a hat and a mask in store, decline to give them PII. It’s a pretty simple and effective solution.

But then don't I become that guy from the xkcd comic whose license plate is all 1s and Is?

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by _Algernon_ »

blagie wrote: post #12
emodendroket wrote: post #7

Well, suppose they became aware. Then what?

Then we can stop going to stores and shop more online, since another upside of bricks-and-mortar is gone.

Or show up in one of those anti face recognition masks whenever you go shopping.

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by lotsofpulp »

SquishyPanda23 wrote: post #59
karmakaze wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All that seems like they don't want you to steal at their store by giving deterrent cues. Which parts were practically inconvenient, or slow you down?

Stores used to make customers feel good about shopping there. Adding elements that make your store feel more like a prison don't help here.

I guess the management at those corporations is so bad they do not realize they are driving profits away by spending money to make it feel like a prison.

Or management is using tons of experience and data to do what they have to do to stay in business in a 2% profit margin business, inconveniencing customers if they have to in order to prevent losses so they do not have to close the store.

Re: Many Americans not aware of being tracked with facial recognition while shopping

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Post by mabbo »

dogman144 wrote: post #35

Whoever builds a wearable “sparkler” that is able to disrupt digital cameras or the underlying tech in a way that doesn’t require the user to wear a large scarf or similar is going to really usher in an interesting part of history.

Your face is just one of a myriad of things that can be recognized and tracked.

There are so many facets of the human body which can all be combined. Can't see your face? Who cares- I can see how far apart your eyes are, how tall you are, your shoulder-to-elbow length, your walking speed, and your approximate weight. You're dogman144, and you spend an average of $26.34 per visit.

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