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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No source code? No tech details? No reason to trust you with my browsing? For all I know, this could be MITM'ing my sessions and exfiltrating my data. Being a paid product gives me exactly one guarantee: that I will be that much poorer. It doesn't increase my trust in the product in any way, it doesn't say anything about what the product is doing for my privacy or security. This is a very poor marketing piece. > Wond…

Can't change your mind on that. I can only tell you that your session data is yours alone, and that we will never monetise our users' data. Free browsers typically make their money from search engine royalties. Users will only pay us if they think the value we're giving them is worth it, and that will keep us developing the product towards what users will benefit from, faster than traditional browsers.

> Free browsers typically make their money from search engine royalties.

Please name names and map them to that.

I know that Chrome is owned by Google. I also know that Firefox makes money from Google for having it as the default search engine. I configure my browser to use DDG. How is your product any better in terms of preserving my data?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#92
post #76

Could you describe what you are actually adding on top of the new Safari? Tab groups are there, sync of them too, keyboard operation too, sharing as well (your improved sharing does only seem to work when both the sender and receiver have your browser, so for a niche tool, it probably won't be useful that often). Which would mean, based on your landing page, that I'd be paying 15$ per month for split-screen. Don't ge…

Hey there! Thanks for your comment :) Here’s my take on tab groups (Safari) vs workspaces (SigmaOS): they seem similar, but they feel very different. e.g. • you don’t always see all your tab groups = no behaviour change, people will still pile up tabs they don’t need. Think of Slack: when you’re done with a workspace, you delete it. But if you’re done with a tab group, you just leave it there to clutter your browser,…

A lot of this functionality can be done by using multiple windows in Safari. Drag a tab out into its own window: boom! split browsing. (But in Safari I'm not limited to 2)

I use that a lot for the same use-case as the "sub pages" here: drag a tab into its own window, then command-click to my heart's content. When I'm done, the whole window gets closed. (Also this is without even using tab groups)

And Apple's Handoff already does the work of maintaining a seamless browsing experience between devices.

I do wish you luck and hope you find some true value differentiators.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#93
It looks awesome!

My main 2 concerns would be :

1. Performance

If it is slow, or a memory hog, like many browser before, that would definitely be a major issue.

2. Privacy

It's 2021, claiming privacy won't cut it anymore. We know the drill.

Do you have have a way to ensure you have no visibility of what people browse? Because else, I am sure you'd become an interesting target for various groups who need or want this data.

Even if you have no interest in using this data, you can be coerced in providing to various bodies, or it can be hacked, which it probably will be, as we can see nowadays with every company with valuable private data.

So the best protection is not have this data on the first place...

Just my 2 cents anyway. Don't listen to people on the Internet :)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#94
post #14

I literally never post comments on HN but what is this product. Is this $15/month browser for MacOS ? Fancy browser with grouped tabs, split-screen and sharing but still just browser. I think I'm just too poor to understand. I hope that your product will succeed because then I will know that in this world you can sell ice to an eskimo.

I make enough money to support $180/annual for a product; however, I see no reason to pay that kind of money for a web browser. It costs the same as a full-priced Windows 10 Pro license. I'm sure there are folks who are willing to pay that kind of money for this experience, I'm just not one of them.

> I'm sure there are folks who are willing to pay that kind of money for this experience

I hope those folks are aware that Vivaldi gives them the same experience for free.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#96
post #7

15$ a month is a ton of money. I'd prefer 50$ one time if possible. The other issue is I simply don't know y'all. You could be keylogging everything for all I know. Even now I tend to use Chrome for secure browsing and Brave for AdBlocked browsing

right now, its not worth $15 a month, or even $9. I see this as a cash grab from a non supported browsers that is a browser theme.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#97
post #55

How often do "Sigma male" memes go around your office?

That was my first thought, thinking it was some kind of operating system for neckbeards.

The second thought was if this was some kind of a Motorola spin-off.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#99

No Linux? No Windows? No 32-bit? No thank you.

This makes me feel rickrolled. I clicked and only see a Mac version download link. The title should mention the platform if it's single-platform. In fact I even have a Mac but it's High Sierra and I'm not updating to Big Sur with all the questionable changes just to try a new browser.

Changed the title!
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