U.S. opens probe into Tesla’s Autopilot over emergency vehicle crashes
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#3This is why I believe the approach of incremental improvement towards full self driving is fundamentally flawed. These advanced driver assist tools are good enough to lull users into a false sense of security. No amount of "but our terms and conditions say you need to always pay attention!" will overcome human nature building that trust and dependence.
Re: U.S. opens probe into Tesla’s Autopilot over emergency vehicle crashes
#4> "The involved subject vehicles were all confirmed to have been engaged in either Autopilot or Traffic Aware Cruise Control during the approach to the crashes,"
No mention of the deceptive marketing name "Full Self Driving" in the article.
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#5Unfortunately the article doesn't mention anything about how common it is for human drivers to crash into first responder vehicles during the night. I'm not trying to downplay these cases, as hitting emergency vehicles is very bad indeed, yet ~4 such crashes per year might be in the same ballpark or even better than "unassisted" drivers that cause such crashes.
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#6Judging by the lack of a market reaction this morning, this is mostly immaterial.
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#7Long overdue. We're going to need a more rapid and iterative way to do this if we got to have even a chance of autopilot type technologies succeeding over the long run. Companies and regulators need to be collecting feedback and pushing for improvement on a regular basis. I still don't think it's likely to succeed, but if it did, this would be the way.
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#8This is why I believe the approach of incremental improvement towards full self driving is fundamentally flawed. These advanced driver assist tools are good enough to lull users into a false sense of security. No amount of "but our terms and conditions say you need to always pay attention!" will overcome human nature building that trust and dependence.
Your reasoning doesn’t apply to the incremental improvements to self-driving, rather Tesla’s decision to allow all cars to use TACC/auto-steer. They haven’t even given people “the button” to enroll in FSD beta, likely because they know it would be extremely bad PR when a bunch of people use it without paying attention.
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#9Predictable outcome of a sensing system fully based on deep learning. Rare unusual situations don't have enough training data and lead to unpredictable output.
I still think that Tesla's approach is the right one, I just think they need to gather more data before letting this product be used in the wild unsupervised.
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#10This is why I believe the approach of incremental improvement towards full self driving is fundamentally flawed. These advanced driver assist tools are good enough to lull users into a false sense of security. No amount of "but our terms and conditions say you need to always pay attention!" will overcome human nature building that trust and dependence.
that's not human nature, that's user stupidity