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Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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I'd love to have a tin-foil hat device like that today, to make a stance in public against surveillance economy and mindless consumption. LCD, removable battery, GBA-like bulkiness, and other retro traits helping with power efficiency and sustainability would be a plus, too.

Lots of people building customized, hacker-friendly "cyberdecks" these days. Just pick your favorite.

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 and https://pine64.org/pinephone . FAQ about the first one: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... .

How well do the Android apps run on it (using Anbox)? I'd need that for running my banking app.

https://puri.sm/posts/anbox-on-the-librem-5/

Also, see the FAQ.

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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Interesting tech choices ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_9000_Communicator ): Intel 80386 CPU, MS-DOS compatible base OS and GEOS shell. Later EPOC-based (which became Symbian) products had much less of a PC-like tech stack.

I had one of these. Sadly, there was only limited software available for it. It was very useful (at that time) to be able to receive faxes though.

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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Was the Communicator ever really influential? I was in a Nokia dominated market at the time and pagers and then blackberrys seemed to be what actually drove that side of the market. The Communicator was seen as a curiosity.

In History they have the concept of "The Great Man theory":

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory

Which ties everything that happened to some individual hero.

We do that in tech for people too, but also devices. I think I'd be interested to read a smartphone (and indeed general computing history) that focused on the other elements like the relentless miniaturisation of tech, battery improvements, radio technology, societal adaptations etc. rather than "this obscure/famous person/device invented the future".

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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Was the Communicator ever really influential? I was in a Nokia dominated market at the time and pagers and then blackberrys seemed to be what actually drove that side of the market. The Communicator was seen as a curiosity.

I owned every generation of it and so did many of my colleagues. Can't recall it being regarded a curiosity. More like, serious business machine.

I had the 9110, 9210, and 9500. None of them really made sense as connected devices because data services were so slow. Web pages would literally take minutes to load, and for heavy use you were paying by the byte.

The main benefit was a nice(ish) keyboard for texts and emails.

I once wrote and emailed in a consultancy report from the back garden of a pub, just to prove I could. But it's not something I'd have been happy doing regularly.

If Psion had somehow added mobile data to their Organisers they'd have killed this market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_Series_5

The main thing these devices did was normalise ARM and pocketable form factors for serious mobile use. But they were really micro laptops and not large mobiles.

They were more like very early versions of the MacBook or Air. The iPhone - rightly - went in a different direction.

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 and https://pine64.org/pinephone . FAQ about the first one: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... .

How well do the Android apps run on it (using Anbox)? I'd need that for running my banking app.

Do note that many banking apps use google safetynet, which means they won't work on anything that deviates too much from normal android and it won't work on anbox.

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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This article kind of misses out the later Nokia N900, which had great hardware, but suffered from Nokia's lack of support (IIRC they stopped supporting it about 6 months after launch).

If you like that kind of form factor/functionality, there's current devices too like the cosmo communicator https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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I still really prefer a hardware keyboard and miss my android G1 in many ways. I'm typing this on my touch screen phone and it's so much slower than texting was even on an ordinary numeric keypad with predictive text. For me touch screens ended productivity on phones and they solely became consumption devices

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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This article kind of misses out the later Nokia N900, which had great hardware, but suffered from Nokia's lack of support (IIRC they stopped supporting it about 6 months after launch). If you like that kind of form factor/functionality, there's current devices too like the cosmo communicator https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator

Or Pinephone with a keyboard addon: https://www.pine64.org/2021/08/15/introducing-the-pinenote.

Re: Nokia 9000 Communicator was launched 25 years ago

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> 25 years since it changed the world

Nokia’s Communicator may have been the most capable phone computer of the pre iPhone era, but it didn’t change the world. It was too expensive, too closed, and not well enough marketed to change much of anything.

I’m surprised to see it glorified here, not because it wasn’t a nice piece of visionary tech, but because the company that made it had such little impact on changing the world despite pioneering the category.

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