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Re: The Rooms Where It Happened

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Post by refurb »

Animats wrote: post #2

Sometimes it's not indoors. - Germany surrenders to France in a railroad car.[1] - France surrenders to Germany in the same railroad car.[2] - Japan surrenders to Allies on the deck of the battleship Missouri. [3] - S. Vietnam surrenders to N. Vietnam, outdoors at the presidential palace.[4] Formal surrenders are rare today. [1] https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:go... [2] https://4.bp.blogspot…

That last one is not S. Vietnam surrendering, that's an American meeting Bui Tin, N. Vietnam Colonel, in 1973 as they implemented the Paris Peace Accord.

My understanding is there was no formal handover in 1975. In fact when the N. Vietnam knocked down the gate of the Presidential Palace and went inside, the S. Vietnam Prime Minister said he was handing over S. Vietnam and the response was "You have nothing left to handover at this point".

Re: The Rooms Where It Happened

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Post by tomc1985 »

ridaj wrote: post #12

I love how the era of Zoom lawmaking has killed decorum for so many of these state public functions. The pompous elected officials now have to connect from what often look like very pedestrian suburban homes, with either bare walls or run-of-the-mill family pics on them, bad lighting, cameras too close to them and too high or too low... They no longer project the institutional authority of big, carpeted, wainscoted,…

Our leaders are no better than us, the entire concept of "nobility" and its resulting pomp and circumstance is the product of selfishness, artifice, and imagination stretched out over millenia. I rather like seeing that the emperors have no clothes

Re: The Rooms Where It Happened

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Post by toomanybeersies »

Animats wrote: post #2

Sometimes it's not indoors. - Germany surrenders to France in a railroad car.[1] - France surrenders to Germany in the same railroad car.[2] - Japan surrenders to Allies on the deck of the battleship Missouri. [3] - S. Vietnam surrenders to N. Vietnam, outdoors at the presidential palace.[4] Formal surrenders are rare today. [1] https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:go... [2] https://4.bp.blogspot…

> Germany surrenders to France in a railroad car

And almost 22 years later, in the same carriage, parked in the same place, France surrendered to Germany [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_of_22_June_1940

Re: The Rooms Where It Happened

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Post by detaro »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #23
Animats wrote: post #2

Sometimes it's not indoors. - Germany surrenders to France in a railroad car.[1] - France surrenders to Germany in the same railroad car.[2] - Japan surrenders to Allies on the deck of the battleship Missouri. [3] - S. Vietnam surrenders to N. Vietnam, outdoors at the presidential palace.[4] Formal surrenders are rare today. [1] https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:go... [2] https://4.bp.blogspot…

> Germany surrenders to France in a railroad car And almost 22 years later, in the same carriage, parked in the same place, France surrendered to Germany [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_of_22_June_1940

that's the next line in the comment you are replying to...

Re: The Rooms Where It Happened

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Post by toomanybeersies »

detaro wrote: post #24
toomanybeersies wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Germany surrenders to France in a railroad car And almost 22 years later, in the same carriage, parked in the same place, France surrendered to Germany [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_of_22_June_1940

that's the next line in the comment you are replying to...

Huh, I'm not sure how I missed that...
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