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Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by buro9 »

andypants wrote: post #47
niyazpk wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same with our website. ( http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_2Y_cf94015a7345bbed... ) 8% faster than Google's version. Yay! To be fair we have done a lot of optimizations on the site, but still feels like I may be missing something obvious.

Getting similar results. I don't really get it, the optimized version takes a few seconds before anything other than my background is displayed. By the time the rest of the 'optimized' site is being rendered, my original site's already loaded. (This is from watching the video in my test results)

I don't think we're the target audience.

I suspect the biggest gains will be sites based on proprietary products which may be in quite a state.

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by icode »

ZoFreX wrote: post #46
ZoFreX wrote: post #16

If anyone on HN thinks their site might be sub-optimal on the front-end, contact me on whyslow@zofrex.com and I'll take a look, and let you know what you can do to speed things up :)

If anyone could give me feedback on why the above is being downvoted, I'd appreciate it. Ta! Edit: I'd actually like feedback please... it went down to 0, then up to 1, then down to 0 again.. and then back up to 2 after I posted this reply. I wasn't asking for upvotes, I want to know what it is that is making some people downvote this. Is it not in keeping with the etiquette here, is there some unspoken rule I'm viol…

It could be interpreted as spam. People often think that "I want to help you" is "I want you to pay me" in disguise :)

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by damoncloudflare »

krmmalik wrote: post #17
ZoFreX wrote: post #15

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Cloudflare does a LOT more than this. In fact, the area where they cross-over is the area that interests me the least - I am quite capable of making a website balls-to-the-wall fast without either of their products, but Cloudflare leverage their size to accomplish things I literally could not accomplish without them. I initially wrote Cloudflare off because of this, they don't do a great job of telling you about the…

Yeah i agree there seems to be some overlap with CloudFlare. I wanted to sign up a client of mine who is running a Wordpress site to CloudFlare, but wasnt able to do so because it required moving their complete zone file over to CloudFlare which they werent able to do for multiple reasons. CloudFlare dont seem to provide a solution where you can just point an A record to their servers (currently). I wonder if this Go…

We will have CNAME pointing available in the very near future.

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by damoncloudflare »

bobfunk wrote: post #3

Seems like strong competition to Cloudflare ( https://www.cloudflare.com/ ). Always thought that was their greatest risk, someone with a huge, worldwide, already paid for CDN stepping in an offering the same service. They still have the statistics and security features going for them, though...

We actually talk about the announcement today on our blog here: http://bit.ly/nLkE9Y

We also do far more than just act as a CDN.

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by damoncloudflare »

blantonl wrote: post #28
krmmalik wrote: post #17

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Yeah i agree there seems to be some overlap with CloudFlare. I wanted to sign up a client of mine who is running a Wordpress site to CloudFlare, but wasnt able to do so because it required moving their complete zone file over to CloudFlare which they werent able to do for multiple reasons. CloudFlare dont seem to provide a solution where you can just point an A record to their servers (currently). I wonder if this Go…

Cloudflare does have the ability to let you define CNAMES for your site and manage those in your own DNS outside of Cloudflare. I believe it is in limited beta right now but we are testing it and it works great. Contact them for more details.

We actually have the backend all built for this. It is just a matter of doing just a little bit more testing before releasing it into the wild. We've used a handful of beta testers to help us identify potential problems.

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by jackwagon »

krmmalik wrote: post #30
blantonl wrote: post #28

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Cloudflare does have the ability to let you define CNAMES for your site and manage those in your own DNS outside of Cloudflare. I believe it is in limited beta right now but we are testing it and it works great. Contact them for more details.

Im a little hazy on my DNS knowledge. I understand upto zone file, dns and A records. Haven't quite understood how i would achieve this with a CNAME? _ i've tried to understand many times what CNAME's are but never got my head around it. Would you mind elaborating a little? I did contact them about a month ago, and explained the problem and they just told me it wasnt possible at this moment in time(?)

A CNAME points a name to another name. In the case of Cloudflare, Google, or others, they need to know what CNAME you are using (say, www.example.com CNAME some.proxyservice.com) so they can map the request to your content.

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by jackwagon »

rkalla wrote: post #14

Anyone notice all the testing locations are AWS Regions? I was assuming webpagetest was a Google property and figured they would use their own data centers.

AWS regions and what Google is using are common to many service providers. These are typical peering locations. Google does have the benefit of having caches local to various ISPs.

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by eastdakota »

retube wrote: post #11

> Page Speed Service fetches content from your servers, rewrites your pages by applying web performance best practices, and serves them to end users via Google's servers across the globe I don't get it. Given that most websites have some dynamic content, that static assets can be updated, edited or otherwise altered at any time, Google must be fetching content on a request-by-request basis, i/e acting as a proxy. How…

The cache-and-optimize-offline strategy that Google Page Speed is using is fraught with problems for dynamic sites. We tried this at first with some CloudFlare optimizations and it was a disaster. We rewrote the system from scratch to do on-the-fly optimization so it works even with dynamic sites. Here's a blog post about it from some time ago:

http://blog.cloudflare.com/an-all-new-and-improved-autominif...

Re: Page Speed Service

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Post by RyanKearney »

ck2 wrote: post #27
RyanKearney wrote: post #24

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Why would you want to?

When Eric Schmidt allows me to search through his wallet and home, he can collect the web pages I browse and the cookies, sessions and httpauth data attached to them.

How about you just don't go to websites that use this? That's like me saying I hate Level 3 and I never want my web traffic to go through them, is there a way I can make sure my data packets never peer with a Level 3 connection?

You should worry more about your ISP than Google trying to make the web faster.

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