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Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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It's almost like performance art. Every now and then some lawmakers dutifully "raise concerns" about surveillance capitalism and the outsize rewards (and subsequent influence) it's combination with the extreme scalability of tech brings about - but it's really meaningless. Even if, every now and then, there is enough outrage to meaningfully delay something it always dries up and the lawmakers feel zero pressure to resist the issue the next time it surfaces in another guise.

Thankfully palm print recognition for in person payments isn't that bad in the scale of everything else going on.

What does intrigue me though is how happy governments seem to be with ceding so much information & control to the corporations. I know the Chinese govt. is cracking down on this suddenly but western govts. don't seem that interested in doing so. Maybe we really are destined for some sort of Snow Crash future where companies can replace governments...

Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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post #2

It's almost like performance art. Every now and then some lawmakers dutifully "raise concerns" about surveillance capitalism and the outsize rewards (and subsequent influence) it's combination with the extreme scalability of tech brings about - but it's really meaningless. Even if, every now and then, there is enough outrage to meaningfully delay something it always dries up and the lawmakers feel zero pressure to re…

> Thankfully palm print recognition for in person payments isn't that bad in the scale of everything else going on.

It's an authorization key that once it gets out it can't be replaced. I imagine it's only a matter if tine before the palm suggests get stolen and are used to spoof authorization.

Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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A bold position to take for representatives of a government that maintains multiple databases of fingerprint scans for foreign nationals and their own citizens…

A big difference between a representative democratic government and a private company, I'd say.

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A bold position to take for representatives of a government that maintains multiple databases of fingerprint scans for foreign nationals and their own citizens…

A big difference between a representative democratic government and a private company, I'd say.

Yes, definitely. The government can put you in jail or shoot you, while Facebook can sell your data to advertisers.

Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big difference between a representative democratic government and a private company, I'd say.

Yes, definitely. The government can put you in jail or shoot you, while Facebook can sell your data to advertisers.

...or other governments. And there's already precedent for getting around pesky things like the 4th amendment by simply buying your data from another country who has it.

Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big difference between a representative democratic government and a private company, I'd say.

Yes, definitely. The government can put you in jail or shoot you, while Facebook can sell your data to advertisers.

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Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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It's almost like performance art. Every now and then some lawmakers dutifully "raise concerns" about surveillance capitalism and the outsize rewards (and subsequent influence) it's combination with the extreme scalability of tech brings about - but it's really meaningless. Even if, every now and then, there is enough outrage to meaningfully delay something it always dries up and the lawmakers feel zero pressure to re…

> Thankfully palm print recognition for in person payments isn't that bad in the scale of everything else going on. It's an authorization key that once it gets out it can't be replaced. I imagine it's only a matter if tine before the palm suggests get stolen and are used to spoof authorization.

the real issue with biometrics is that you can't properly secure them. you can hash a password, but a palm/finger/eye scan cannot use a zero knowledge proof. they also change over time and can be mimicked using a photo taken from a smartphone camera.

Re: Amazon's Palm Print Recognition System Raises Concern Among US Senators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big difference between a representative democratic government and a private company, I'd say.

Yes, definitely. The government can put you in jail or shoot you, while Facebook can sell your data to advertisers.

Facebook has a lot more power than that, and you have no authority over them.
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