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Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Can’t trust them since the multiple spyware incidents. Fool me four times, shame on me Eg, > But it did more than that. It injected a self-signed root HTTPS certificate, which allowed them to hijack any and all encrypted traffic Different incident > This malware was hidden in the laptop's firmware, and abused the anti-theft feature in Windows 8 and 10. Whenever the laptop booted up, the executable would be extracted…

This is the only thing stopping me from buying an X1 Carbon. I had decided to buy a Dell Latitude instead, but apparently Dell did something similar [1], so now I don't know what to buy. Maybe a Huawei? AFAIK they haven't been caught in these shenanigans yet, but I still don't feel comfortable with them for some reason. God, the laptop market is awful. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/superfish-20-now-dell-.…

It depends. If you wan't to run linux, then on your location. If you want to run Windows, i can't help you. As others have allready mentioned, take a look at System76 if you reside in the US. Another option would be https://puri.sm/

Slimbook was mentioned, they are in the UK IIRC.

If you are somewhere else, https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ might have something for you.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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They've been doing this for a little while. I just bought an X1 Carbon without Windows. I don't plan on using the pre-installed Linux, but I appreciate that they're confirming that Linux works with the laptop and all its components.

I think that pre-installed Linux also means that company is going to provide some customer support, be it BIOS fixes or maybe addressing a driver issue after an OS update. Without such support it was common to simply get “an unsupported OS” reply, which will necessarily limit how popular product is with non-tech people.

Yep. I've had my X1 Carbon for eighteen months and keep receiving firmware updates via lvfs. Every piece of hardware, fingerprint reader included, works flawlessly out of the box with Fedora.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an option in Matt Millers link here: https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdm/status/1401929147937607687

Yes although that is the X series, I've been browsing after my comment and had noticed that there is a mix and some seem to be Ubuntu and some Fedora, which is great. I also appreciate that they are saying that everything should work, including the fingerprint reader which is one thing I'm a little bitter about the XPS series. They'll sell you a laptop that is Linux compatible, but not everything will work. Actually…

I believe there are drivers available for fingerprint riders for Ubuntu 20.04. Needs an up to date bios update and I'm not sure about compatibility with older models e.g.

http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates/pool/public/libf/l...

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the only thing stopping me from buying an X1 Carbon. I had decided to buy a Dell Latitude instead, but apparently Dell did something similar [1], so now I don't know what to buy. Maybe a Huawei? AFAIK they haven't been caught in these shenanigans yet, but I still don't feel comfortable with them for some reason. God, the laptop market is awful. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/superfish-20-now-dell-.…

I got an X1 Extreme, went to switch the graphics from Hybrid to Discreet in the BIOS to install Linux, and immediately bricked it. It was a bug. No reset can fix it. They have to replace the motherboard. They had it four months before I finally got them to just replace the machine.

> I got an X1 Extreme, went to switch the graphics from Hybrid to Discreet in the BIOS to install Linux, and immediately bricked it. It was a bug.

See, you should have picked the "Discrete" option instead. Happens to the best of us!

(Apparently there is a workaround where you can remove the hard disk from the machine to make it easier to enter BIOS, then trigger the "Reset to factory defaults" and "Save and exit" options by blindly pressing the right key sequence on the keyboard. It might or might not work for anyone experiencing this.)

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes although that is the X series, I've been browsing after my comment and had noticed that there is a mix and some seem to be Ubuntu and some Fedora, which is great. I also appreciate that they are saying that everything should work, including the fingerprint reader which is one thing I'm a little bitter about the XPS series. They'll sell you a laptop that is Linux compatible, but not everything will work. Actually…

> They'll sell you a laptop that is Linux compatible, but not everything will work. That is despicable on Dell’s part. The definition of ‘compatible’ is that everything will work.

> That is despicable on Dell’s part

Meh. It was well known when I bought one so it's not underhand and I find it a pretty irrelevant feature anyway. Ubuntu logs-in very quickly so using a power button finger print reader is a more convoluted gesture to me than putting hands on the keyboard. It would need that newer feature that caches the fingerprint from the power-on event to be worthwhile.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

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Can’t trust them since the multiple spyware incidents. Fool me four times, shame on me Eg, > But it did more than that. It injected a self-signed root HTTPS certificate, which allowed them to hijack any and all encrypted traffic Different incident > This malware was hidden in the laptop's firmware, and abused the anti-theft feature in Windows 8 and 10. Whenever the laptop booted up, the executable would be extracted…

This is the only thing stopping me from buying an X1 Carbon. I had decided to buy a Dell Latitude instead, but apparently Dell did something similar [1], so now I don't know what to buy. Maybe a Huawei? AFAIK they haven't been caught in these shenanigans yet, but I still don't feel comfortable with them for some reason. God, the laptop market is awful. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/superfish-20-now-dell-.…

Have you considered a Framework? frame.work, mostly open, modular laptop

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an option in Matt Millers link here: https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdm/status/1401929147937607687

Yes although that is the X series, I've been browsing after my comment and had noticed that there is a mix and some seem to be Ubuntu and some Fedora, which is great. I also appreciate that they are saying that everything should work, including the fingerprint reader which is one thing I'm a little bitter about the XPS series. They'll sell you a laptop that is Linux compatible, but not everything will work. Actually…

There are multiple versions of the XPS 13 and XPS 15.

Most are Windows based. Only the “Developer Edition” of the XPS13 is sold as Linux compatible and everything on it works with Linux.

Mine lacks a fingerprint reader because Dell couldn’t, at the time, get the OEM to provide decent Linux support. So they just left that out of the build.

The other Windows builds are not sold as Linux compatible so if you go that route you’re not getting any guarantees things will work.

For 15” laptops you have to move to Dell’s Precision line for Linux compatibility rather than the XPS 15.

Seems poor marketing to me. They should have a line where all the models are linux compatible and it would much easier for consumers.

Re: Lenovo Selling Linux Laptops Directly in the US

#30
They have been selling laptops without os for quite some time. I guess having a preinstall has some use but not much for me.

The E14 gen3 is looking pretty nice for myself. Zen 3 ryzen (not quite M1 levels of raw power but not too far behind) with 24G ram and 512+1000G SSD for little over 1000 euros.

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