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British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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Re: British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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Wasn't topiary supposedly the guy who was doing the interview during which the WBC got hacked? If so, they have his voice on tape. Certainly wasn't British. At the time I thought French, but Swedish would fit. The slightly annoying thing is that we may never know. The real topiary is not going to reappear if they've arrested the wrong guy. The police are certainly not going to give up their arrest. And presumably the…

If he's really from Shetland he wouldn't sound British. He might sound Swedish though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shetlandic

Re: British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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Going after people running Low Orbit Ion Cannon and expecting to get top brass is... incredible wishful thinking.

I think they just need to get someone. Doesn't really matter who. Find some random gullable 13 year old wanna-be-hacker kid that ran LOIC for a while. Parade him in front of the media and judges, send him off to juvie, handshakes and bonuses for everyone involved... Police, prosecutors, media, all get to pat theselves on the back. That is what this is really about.

Re: British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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post #17

Wasn't topiary supposedly the guy who was doing the interview during which the WBC got hacked? If so, they have his voice on tape. Certainly wasn't British. At the time I thought French, but Swedish would fit. The slightly annoying thing is that we may never know. The real topiary is not going to reappear if they've arrested the wrong guy. The police are certainly not going to give up their arrest. And presumably the…

The real topiary is not going to reappear if they've arrested the wrong guy

He might. Why? For the lulz, of course.

Re: British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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Going after people running Low Orbit Ion Cannon and expecting to get top brass is... incredible wishful thinking.

I think they just need to get someone. Doesn't really matter who. Find some random gullable 13 year old wanna-be-hacker kid that ran LOIC for a while. Parade him in front of the media and judges, send him off to juvie, handshakes and bonuses for everyone involved... Police, prosecutors, media, all get to pat theselves on the back. That is what this is really about.

Which itself achieves a positive outcome, by communicating to the next gullible 13-year-old who might be thinking about doing something stupid to someone else's computer that there might be real-world consequences to it.

Re: British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they just need to get someone. Doesn't really matter who. Find some random gullable 13 year old wanna-be-hacker kid that ran LOIC for a while. Parade him in front of the media and judges, send him off to juvie, handshakes and bonuses for everyone involved... Police, prosecutors, media, all get to pat theselves on the back. That is what this is really about.

Which itself achieves a positive outcome, by communicating to the next gullible 13-year-old who might be thinking about doing something stupid to someone else's computer that there might be real-world consequences to it.

Assuming gullible 13-year-olds are the sort to think about the consequences before downloading an executable and clicking "run," anyway. In my experience (so this is really just anecdotal evidence), that's rarely the case, especially when it comes to politics.

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Makes one wonder if their monikers are really tightly tied to real persons. Maybe the core group uses their names interchangeably and when one of them is ousted with a raid, some one else from the group assumes the online identity.

You would make a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts.

Wesley?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which itself achieves a positive outcome, by communicating to the next gullible 13-year-old who might be thinking about doing something stupid to someone else's computer that there might be real-world consequences to it.

Assuming gullible 13-year-olds are the sort to think about the consequences before downloading an executable and clicking "run," anyway. In my experience (so this is really just anecdotal evidence), that's rarely the case, especially when it comes to politics.

The total number of script-kiddies might go down a bit. Of course there's always going to be some gullible 13-year-olds who run scripts, but the idea is to have less of them. It's more of a statistical argument than an anecdotal one.

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post #17

Wasn't topiary supposedly the guy who was doing the interview during which the WBC got hacked? If so, they have his voice on tape. Certainly wasn't British. At the time I thought French, but Swedish would fit. The slightly annoying thing is that we may never know. The real topiary is not going to reappear if they've arrested the wrong guy. The police are certainly not going to give up their arrest. And presumably the…

If he's really from Shetland he wouldn't sound British. He might sound Swedish though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shetlandic

That's english with a few more words, they still sound scottish, not swedish.

From a bit of youtubing and googling the few clips I've heard are instantly recognizable as scottish, with a few words you don't understand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij60XUvWjZY&feature=playe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxNxnXo7-c&playnext=1&#3...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx5MgoL5tQ8

The UK has a phenomenal amount of dialects, they're all British though and even a Londoner can tell the difference between a Swedish accent and a British one.

Re: British Police Duped by LulzSec Into Arresting the Wrong Guy?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he's really from Shetland he wouldn't sound British. He might sound Swedish though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shetlandic

That's english with a few more words, they still sound scottish, not swedish. From a bit of youtubing and googling the few clips I've heard are instantly recognizable as scottish, with a few words you don't understand. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij60XUvWjZY&feature=playe... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxNxnXo7-c&playnext=1&#3... http://www.youtub…

British accent != accent from the UK. I doubt anyone from Northern Ireland would asociate with being thier accent called British, from either side of the political divide; and I suspect more than a few of our Scottish bretheren would object rightly or wrongly.

But to your point - a Scottish accent and a Swedish one are distinctly different.

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